Bad Introduction into the MP3 familiy

ItmannWV

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This is my first post on the board. I've been hoping to buy an MP3 for awhile, but today's experience has me thinking that it's just not meant to be.

I'd really appreciate some input. Thanks.

. . . . so, I'm test driving an MP3 with 78,000 miles. The dealer agreed to let me drive the car about 35 miles to go pick up my fiance from work so we can come back and do the deal.

After the first 25 miles or so, I notice a slight clicking sound coming from the front of the car, but it only happens when I first step on the gas and right before I let it all the way off. I'm on the interstate going 70 or so (in 5th gear, of course).

I hit an exit and come to a stop at the top of the ramp. As I pull out, the first three gears are noisy as hell. CLICKETY-CLACK! It eases off a little once I get to fourth, but now the clicks and clacks are constant, not just in the first few millimeters of the throttle.

I get to my fiance's workplace, pick her up, and start heading back. By the time I hit the interstate again (about 2 miles, if that), the car is plain scaring me to death. I'm just wondering if I can get it to the next exit before the engine seizes.

I don't think I totally blew the engine, but as I was pulling off the interstate so I can park the thing and call the dealer to come get his car (even though I couldn't be held liable, I did NOT want to be driving the car when the f'n thing blows up), the oil light and check engine light comes on and it dies on me.

While I was waiting on the two truck, I started it back up. It clicked and clacked and just plain ol' felt rough, but I didn't see any smoke coming out the exhaust or any other fluids on the ground. I immediately shut the car back off.

A few questions if any of you all would be so kind as to give me a little input:

What *exactly* could be wrong with the engine? I'm far from a car mechanic so I don't want to humiliate myself by going to deep into my "diagnosis," but I imagine that the valves were making the noise.

What causes that? Considering that I shut the car down fairly quickly once the problem worsened past just being slightly annoying, could it be fixed somewhat easily?

If the dealer is willing to give me some kind of warranty on the powertrain after they fix it, would I be an idiot for still considering purchasing the car?

I know it's hard to say on some of these without having witnessed it yourself, but any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again.
 
Was the car making all the noise in gear or even in idol? I just blew the tranny in mine. It was making some sort of clacking noise if you wish, almost as if something was hitting a fan (put your finger in the fan) and it got worst, i also almost didnt hear it in 4th and 5th. then today it just jamed on me. tranny is done.

If it's the tranny they can rebuild it.. just make sure they do.. if the noise wasnt as bad in idol then it might be the tranny. it was kinda of a tuck tuck tuck tuck tuck tcuk (ok i suck at sound effects online). the oil light and check engine come on if you stall the car eather way. when you tried to start it did you notice the check engine and oil on? (like the second time you tried).

Anyways. Its hard to tell for people online. But i had the almost similar thing happening and i know for a fact it's my tranny (now the car doesnt move but there is no clicking clacking tucking sound comming out).
 
The car still made the noise even in neutral. Before I started heading back, but after I had detected the sound, I had my fiance put it in neutral and rev it a little. When I started it back up for a second while I was waiting on the tow truck, I never even put it in gear when it was still making all that noise and running rough.

It was obvious that the noise worsened the faster the engine revved. It was undoubtedly coming from the engine.
 
Ya mine never ran rough. and the noise was worst when i reved it up... but it stoped when i pushed the clutch in.

Too bad the MP3 you tried had the s*** beat out of it. they are awesome cars. Luckaly mine i know it was me!
 
JoeManNorth said:
Too bad the MP3 you tried had the s*** beat out of it.

Actually, the car looked absolutely beautiful. There were minor imperfections in the interior and it had the "The Clunk," (but I was expecting that).

The exterior was flawless.

The only other problems were: the steering wheel had what basically looked like a white paint smear on the backside of it, the console trim peice didn't seem to want to snap in, and the buttons on the CD player were worn out (the volume button just flat out didn't work. . . I was going to request that they put a check in my hand to go buy a new CD player on the quick).

Only thing is that that only other "problem" was a major one. . . like. . . not being able to drive the damn thing. lol
 
JoeManNorth said:
hahaha that has a bent rod or messed up valve

Yeah..

Thats a busted rod or rod bering something like that (Thats waaaaay more then a messed up valve) It hasnt been fully diagnosed, but it requires a rebuild for sure.
 
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TheMAN said:
WHERE is the noise coming from? driver's side or passenger side?

In the sound clip its comming from the pass

You officialy Killed a FSDE the quickest, lol, JK!!!

You are crazy lucky you didnt buy it and it happened before the deal closed. (Unless they replace the motor for you at no cost, then your all good)
 
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Rac3rX said:
You are crazy lucky you didnt buy it and it happened before the deal closed. (Unless they replace the motor for you at no cost, then your all good)


I agree to that.
 
hahahah No man. Canadian.. well french, but not quebecer. NOT quebecer~ J'ai blower ma tranny. Trops de burnouts.
 
JoeManNorth said:
hahahah No man. Canadian.. well french, but not quebecer. NOT quebecer~ J'ai blower ma tranny. Trops de burnouts.

lol Thats pretty Funny, I live in Montreal. (ughdance) No worries Im not a Quebecer, but I can speak some french)

But I ment ItmannWV for blowing it within the 35miles he had test driving it.


ItmannWV

Was it a MP3 or a MSP?

MP3 Probably oil starvation

MSP Probably Overboost without a Proper Tune


JoeManNorth

When you blew your tranny was it a manual or auto? Did you have motor mounts?

I do alot of burnout and since the motor mount install they are smooth as silk with a 5spd manual.
 
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Rac3rX said:
In the sound clip its comming from the pass

You officialy Killed a FSDE the quickest, lol, JK!!!

You are crazy lucky you didnt buy it and it happened before the deal closed. (Unless they replace the motor for you at no cost, then your all good)

I wasn't refering to the video but the ****** up MP3
 
TheMAN said:
I wasn't refering to the video but the ****** up MP3


I figured that, but let him know where it was comming from in the sound clip to do a better comparison.

Thanks. Im sure you can help assess the situation, glad your in the thread.
 
haha nice man. Montreal is cool though. You guys are the only reason quebec is a part of canada right now (and well canada woudnt be canada without quebec even though i find quebecers a little.. well.. quebecer)

Manual tranny, no engine mounts. I still dont know exactly what is wrong with it.. i know it's the tranny, but if it's the clutch or the gears or a shaft i cant say. my guess is i demolished it. the MP3 is just too much freggen fun to drive fast!!!
 
JoeManNorth said:
haha nice man. Montreal is cool though. You guys are the only reason quebec is a part of canada right now (and well canada woudnt be canada without quebec even though i find quebecers a little.. well.. quebecer)

Manual tranny, no engine mounts. I still dont know exactly what is wrong with it.. i know it's the tranny, but if it's the clutch or the gears or a shaft i cant say. my guess is i demolished it. the MP3 is just too much freggen fun to drive fast!!!

Yeah My Dads Mom came here from Germany, Montreal is a Great city, but these roads are driving me nuts.

I love Canada, when will Quebecers learn? They want to be so cultured, yet they want to seperate from there actual Country, its retarded. ***Cough Cough** TREASON*** Cough ** Cough****

Last year I was doing burnouts all the time with no motor mounts installed, & going home from the track one night I started hearing a chirping sound coming from the shifter (Under the car, not inside) at all different times.

As it turns out the wheel hop tore apart the shifter in all kinds of ways.

I only had 24000klm on her at the time and owned her for only 2 years, so I took it to Mazda and told them it just started Chirping one morning, The next day I had a Complete new shifter & all that goes with @ no cost.

100% the wheel hop did the dammage, and the Diff with the RR-Racing motor mounts installed (65$ canadian Shipped, there was no customs or brokerage fees at all, from www.rr-racing.com ) is incredible, like I said Smoooooth as silk, Its taking a couple weeks for them to break in (Still breaking in, but the breaking in is noticeable still) But I would NEVER go back (Well the stock rear mount is torn to s***, and my pass side mount is slightly torn, but with the Incerts the motor doesnt move at all so Im not worried.
 
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Awesome to know man. It is one of the first things i was going to do to mine but i'll be dropping serious money on the tranny now.

and that vid you got going is crazy, i'll have to show my cousin tomorow, he's got a Cobalt SS Supercharged (my mission is to kick his ass).

Do you have any stickers on your car!? like a big eagle on the hood!?
 
JoeManNorth said:
Awesome to know man. It is one of the first things i was going to do to mine but i'll be dropping serious money on the tranny now.

and that vid you got going is crazy, i'll have to show my cousin tomorow, he's got a Cobalt SS Supercharged (my mission is to kick his ass).

Do you have any stickers on your car!? like a big eagle on the hood!?

Thanks! What Vid are you talking about, Ive made a few.

lol, No Im not too fond of decals, I do got a Injen sticker in my rear door small window, but thats it.

The Cobalt SS will be tough they are pretty quick, supercharged and all, but we got a 14 second N/A Proteges & its doable for all of us with the right Mods, good luck out driving him.

On Topic:

ItmannWV

Hows the sound compare to the sound clip?
 
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