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krimsonviper

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What are some good ones to go with? So far i've heard focal and DLS and they're pretty good. i've heard/owned elementals and they're really good in the SQ area, but its reliability hasnt been good to me and im not looking at them again. can you give pros, cons, reliability with the brands you post?
 
Elemental sucks in most all areas in my opinion. Their SQ is nothing special.
I have to assume you are looking for component speakers. as that is all focal makes.
Some others to check out
JL Audio, Polk Audio, Alpine, Image Dynamics, Eclipse, rainbow, OZ audio, Morel, Dynaudio, Diamond Audio....its a long list

Speakers are all about what YOUR ears like, so the only thing to do is get out there and do some comparisions.
When I picked my set from what Tweeter Carried, I chose the Polk Audio SR series. I liked them better then the Focal K2Ps and the JL audio ZRs
 
sweet. what im really getting at is just a list of companies. Not only for components but coaxials and subs. plus i want to know its reliability for its subs, meaning can it take a beating like JL can and last for more than a year? because alpine and elemental failed me within 6 months
 
sweet. what im really getting at is just a list of companies. Not only for components but coaxials and subs. plus i want to know its reliability for its subs, meaning can it take a beating like JL can and last for more than a year? because alpine and elemental failed me within 6 months

Well elemental is pure crap. The alpines failure concerns me.
Most of the time a speaker or subwoofer fails it is from an improper setup.
The reality is that you can under or over power a speaker with no issue for years. The problems start when peopletry to crank the sub up and get more volume then it and its amplifier are capable of producing cleanly.

There is a very good reason I have never blown a speaker but I play my s*** LOUD and I am into rather hard music.

Looking at subwoofers; add Re audio, tangband, rockford, and JBL. There are alot of really geared up SPL subs out there too though I am not familair with them.
 
I looked at alpines website and it said the RMS for the 5x7 i have is 100. i dont know if its a new revamped speaker and they increased the wattage or i just under powered it. i have the 300/4 powering my xr570csi and the type-r. iirc though, the 5x7 at the time was only 70watts rms
 
I looked at alpines website and it said the RMS for the 5x7 i have is 100. i dont know if its a new revamped speaker and they increased the wattage or i just under powered it. i have the 300/4 powering my xr570csi and the type-r. iirc though, the 5x7 at the time was only 70watts rms

The 300/4 is fine power wise for either speaker power rating.

Most speaker deaths I see are from people using Ipods or other crappy compressed music sources and then cranking a bunch of juck circuits like bass boost to compensate. Of coarse this does nothing but pump pure distortion into a speaker causing its death rather easily,
JL has a tutorial about how to set the gains of there amps. Be sure to set it up accordingly.

I have run my Polk SR6500s off of the front channel of my 300/4 for several months now wiht no problems.
 
Memphis. Just as good as JL if not better.


A very common saying by fans of 30 different brands.
They always compare to JL though.

JL is not the best brand at any one thing for everyone. However, their continued performance, reliability, and yes marketing have made them the industry standard by which most everyone is judged.

Memphis was never a solid SQ company to my ears. They seemed decent at SPL, something JL never really did well.
Memphis is certainly worth a listen.
 
JL has a tutorial about how to set the gains of there amps. Be sure to set it up accordingly.

really? where? i've been looking for something like that. i also know about that bass boost crap. best advice for that is DONT USE BASS BOOST.
 
so in my research, i've found that the cleansweep only provides 2 RCA outputs, can you connect another amp for for the sub or what? also is the 3sixty the same way? what about the 3sixty's RCA output, is it 5 volt?
 
A very common saying by fans of 30 different brands.
They always compare to JL though.

JL is not the best brand at any one thing for everyone. However, their continued performance, reliability, and yes marketing have made them the industry standard by which most everyone is judged.

Memphis was never a solid SQ company to my ears. They seemed decent at SPL, something JL never really did well.
Memphis is certainly worth a listen.


Very true. Can't go wrong with JL. Especially their amps and subs. Hence their price.
 
1sty, just curious, why do you feel ed is crap? I've used some of their older subs (namely a 12O, a buddy has a couple of eu700's) which played incredibly low, had great detail with no boominess whatsoever, all for a good price. I used that sub for over two years with no problems. Has their newer stuff gone downhill? My previous subs were a JL 10W1, a JL 12W6 and an Infinity Reference 12. None of them came close to the 12O in output or sq.
 
This is a loaded question, because we've all had experiences with different brands. I'm sure if you asked around, you'd find someone who likes Audiobahn! It won't be me, though.

Bottom line:

Every major and minor brand has its ups and downs, and some brands are more consistent then others. For instance, I love my setup and its more rare parts, but I'm sure I could do better. I am certain, however, that slapping all JL Audio or all Memphis audio stuff in place of my mix-and-match setup would result in disappointment. In all, equipment doesn't matter nearly as much as install and tuning.

But, I'll play the game with you, just 'cause!

Amps: JL Audio slash series, Memphis maybe, Diamond, MB Quart's new ones, PG's Radial Sd (ugly but powerful), Alpine higher end PDX amps, Boston Acoustics amps, MTX Audio's upper end, Eclipse, Polk, JBL Power, Pioneer Premier PRS amps (the ICEpower ones), Blaupunkt PCA's (when you want to go cheap), and US Amps. With amps, its less about watts then you think! Its a lot more about flexibility, durability, and size/weight.

Coaxials: I'm not even going to answer this, because its retarded. Bluntly put, coaxials in a performance car audio system simply do not belong. Rear speakers do not belong. Go component in the front (or separates) or go home.

Components (or separates, the TRUE path): If you simply want the very best out there for mid-bass/midrange, and highend, go with separates like SEAS, Scanspeak, Vifa, etc. This takes a lot more trial and error, and you're going to need an active crossover that can do it right, but it is really the best way. If you don't want to touch this side of things, then go with Pioneer Premier TS-C720 components. Also the Type-X Alpines, JL Audio upper end (though not the top of the line), Eclipse upper end, Diamond mid to upper end, RE Audio components, Kicker SS only, Polk Signature SR, High-end JBL, and Boston Acoustics are all good. In our car, you need to run two sets of speaker wire to the doors through Molex connectors. Good luck on that.

Subs: I'm tired of hearing the same B.S. all the time about how one brand "hits harder" or "has more bump" then another. I've owned a lot of the brands, and I can tell you that the brand doesn't matter near as much as the install and tune. Use a box modeling program like WinISD pro (a freebie) and figure it out yourself, and build a box properly. Most prebuilt boxes leak air, and won't sound too hot. Another problem is that people sometimes stuff a sub into a random box and hope for the best. IMO, this is exactly what is wrong with the car audio industry. The box matters as much IF NOT MORE then the sub itself. Want brands anyway? JL is good, RE Audio is as well. As is Fi Car Audio, Eclipse, Diamond, Memphis, Boston, etc. Pretty much its all the same these days.

All the rest: What is the best wire? the best sound dampener? the best processor? etc. I don't have all the answers for you, but I can tell you some quick things to know...if you don't have all basics down in car audio but you want to, go to www.bcae1.com and learn firsthand all about it. From there, I'll make the suggestion to not make buying decisions based on what Best Buy or CC carries in stock. Next, I recommend you do your own research on what works best for you, and not get sucked in by hype and marketing. For sound dampening materials, look up www.raamaudio.com, and peek around. For wire, look up www.knukonceptz.com as an idea, and for processors and such, research pays off. You can always ask me a question if you need specific help. I'm all about getting excellent sound out of cars.
 
dude i was wondering when fouthmeal was finally gonna show. lol thats not to say everyone else has crummy answers its just that i knew he'd give a long, deep and well thought out/worded out answer. im still wanting to pick up some new coaxials for my rear and i already have components in the front from JL's XR series. so i think im going to shop around more when i have more money to purchase. im going to go with 5.25 instead of 5x7's this time. does anyone know the answer to the other question i had, about cleansweep and RF's 3sixty?
 
what was the question regarding cleansweep and 3sixty? (BTW, lots of other makers of O.E. integrators these days...3sixty was the only one that had what I wanted WHEN I wanted it, which was 8 months ago.)
 
so in my research, i've found that the cleansweep only provides 2 RCA outputs, can you connect another amp for for the sub or what? also is the 3sixty the same way? what about the 3sixty's RCA output, is it 5 volt?

I know alpine makes one also, but its RCA output is low(sitting at 2 volts) and when i installed my friends cd/dvd player in my car i had to turn up the gains and my amps started to run hot so i wasnt cool with anything lower than 4 volts. i think pioneer makes one too, but im no one i know own an integrated piece of equipment so i need to go to the shops and see if they have them up for display
 
right now the winner is supposed to be the JBL MS-8. By a LONG shot.

See, they have every single feature that the Alpine and 3sixty.2 have PLUS some serious processing onboard for acoustic shaping. I want.

To answer your question, I'm unsure of the voltage output, but it is sufficient to power my older-style amps no problem at all. The cleansweep simply makes a 2 channel output so you have to either Y cable or run a separate crossover to get everything working right. The 3sixty.2 (not one, but .2) gives you 5.1 channel output (yes, including a center channel if you like), with full crossover control, and tons of other goodies...big difference. The 3sixty.1 pretty much matches the JL design.

The winner is the MS-8.
 
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see, i want something just plain and simple. complexity in tuning it is getting to be bothersome to me these days. i know im falling out of the good light in car audio, but i've gotten to empathetic these days. Im leaning towards JL's plug and play cleansweep, but that whole 2 RCA thing has me tripping a little bit because i wouldnt know how to connect for a 2nd amp for the sub
 

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