Are MP3\Mazdaspeed struts ok on my p5 if I don't lower it?

|Thrax|

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Say I put the AWR 19mm swaybar on my mp5 and the tabs broke. I don't want to lower my car, ever. Can I still use those struts on the front and rear?

Who makes the "Mazdaspeed" sway bar I saw at the dealer?
 
Yes, you can use the Mazdaspeed struts with the stock springs, however they are tuned for the MP3's stiffer and shorter springs. I've had the 19mm AWR bar on for almost 2 years and the strut tabs have yet to break.

The "Mazdaspeed" sway bar sold in the kit from the dealership is made by Racing Beat.
 
oh cool, your strut tabs havn't broken yet. :)

What if I buy the "mazda" sway bar put it on my p5 and then the tabs break? Will they warranty it? It is a mazda part and they said it would be ok on my p5.
oh yeah..

thanks for the reply
 
If you put the "Mazda" bar on, they won't cover it under warranty unless you upgrade the struts, because it states in the brochure that the aftermarket sway bars are intended to be used with the Mazdaspeed Struts. I would be very cautious installing the "Mazda" bar with the stock struts, because it is a solid bar and not a hollow one like the AWR.

Also, I'm not sure how the dealer is selling it, but usually when you buy the Sway Bar package, it comes with a new rear subframe. This subframe adjusts the clearance so that the bar will fit properly. This is why the AWR bar is easier to install...it comes with spacer brackets that just bolt up to the existing subframe and you don't have to change the whole subframe.

As for the front sway bar, there is a lot of work involved to replace that. You have remove the front crossmember, because there is not enough clearance to "snake" the bar out from the side. Most people, including myself, opt to leave the stock front bar alone. I have helped a friend swap one and it takes a good part of the day.
 
Thanks for the help!

I am going to buy the AWR. If my strut tabs break I will have the mazdaspeed\mp3 struts ready.
 
Good choice...you won't be disappointed...your car will handle like a slot car.
 
yours havent broken because sedan struts have reinforced tabs.

the p5s are the only ones w/o them.
 
Nope, the sedans are not reinforced....only the MP3s and MSPs. The struts on the LX, ES, and MP5 are identical.
 
How stiff are the mp3 springs? How much does it lower the car? I don't plan on lowering the car for awhile tho.
 
They lower the car about .75-.875"....not very much at all. When riding in an MP3, I noticed they are quite a bit stiffer, but others may have different opinions.
 
whats the best way to make a little re-inforcement tab to help keep the tabs from getting weak? I cannot make out how racing beat did it exactly.

-chris
 
|Thrax| said:
whats the best way to make a little re-inforcement tab to help keep the tabs from getting weak? I cannot make out how racing beat did it exactly.

-chris

Here's the diff

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I'm getting AWR's 19mm rear bar as well from Mitch (hopefully this week.) Sounds as though we should be o.k. on stock P5 struts..... fingers x'd.
 
|Thrax| said:
dude, why did you ditch your wrx for a p5?

is the p5 fast enough for you? :confused:

Sore subject! :mad: Water under the bridge......

Yeah, it's alright. Maybe a FP Turbo sometime down the road... :D
 
water got sucked into your turbo?

lemme know how you like teh SR motorsport bar.. and if it breaks your car.

thnks
 
i have mp3 struts on mr mp5 with ground-control and a awr 21.5 rear sway bar and it was worth it to get the struts plus you don't wan't to try to just reinforce the tab because it the process you could weaken the strut housing if you were to use heat
 
|Thrax| said:
water got sucked into your turbo?

(rofl) (rofl)

No, I didn't suck water through my turbo! I just had other issues, of which I'll not expound on. It's gone, and I miss it. Period.

I'll update everyone on the AWR bar after a nice twisty road eval. :)
 
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