BoostedPR5
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I used rubbing compound on mine but it was pretty bad...
Anyone have clearcoat failure on their Protege 5 (yellow)?
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Any updates as to how well this is holding up? I'm gonna give it a shot today on my faded panels.
Like Astral stated in this thread (or another he linked) the bumpers could use more work but the body is still shiny and looks 100% better. In fact it is hard to see any difference between the spoiler and the body now. I finished the driver side and roof with mequiars (not sure which one, a cleaner wax) and man that blows the cheap turtle wax out of the water. Been doing some research and I think I'm going to try clay next wash. Also I'm going to try getting at least two more coats of polish and wax before winter.
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I should also mention that I'm way green at using polishing compound and really detailing all together. A dime size mark on the rear bumper showed me what too much buffer wheel can do to plastic if left on too long.
Question for the detailing experts: Can you fill in chips with touchup paint and buff it to almost blend in completely? Maybe a little wet sanding?
notice the yellow stain on the driveway... and the front bumper still isn't shiny but at least its not pastel.
I should also mention that I'm way green at using polishing compound and really detailing all together. A dime size mark on the rear bumper showed me what too much buffer wheel can do to plastic if left on too long.
Question for the detailing experts: Can you fill in chips with touchup paint and buff it to almost blend in completely? Maybe a little wet sanding?
notice the yellow stain on the driveway... and the front bumper still isn't shiny but at least its not pastel.
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Should be 3 layers of base and 3 layers of clear, which is standard. Single stages haven't been used in almost 25 years on production cars.
2002 honda accord white, my roommate's 2003 toyota tacoma radiant red are single stage. the brand new 2010 tacoma comes in super white, which is single stage. I will bet $1000 the paint (maybe save for the spoiler and a piece here and there) on my yellow 2002 p5 is single stage.
Exactly. The only parts of my yellow car that are still shiny are the spoiler (where the clear isn't peeling), the door jambs, and the left side of my car because it hasn't had as much sun expose on that side. And even the left side isn't as shiny as the spoiler, which looks the same as the door jambs. The rest of the car, especially bumpers and hood are a nice pastel yellow. An un-shiny version of that ford yellow you see on some of the older rustangs and foci.
Oh and I used to live in Waltham too, about 5 years ago. Although then I was driving a silver 88 RX-7 TII with a broken exhaust that made a racket and i premixed so my car stank like a 2 stroke dirtbike. Maybe you've seen me around lol.
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Buffing of my yellow P5 and my roommate's 2003 radiant red and paint color comes off on the towel. That means the top layer is paint and not clear. At least 2003 Honda Accord whites have been single stage as well, though I have not buffed one personally.
Very good, but there are many possibilties that would cause the color to be seen on the towel. The type of polishing material, how much effort or frequency the paint has been rubbed out, how much clearcoat is remaining, whether or not there were previous owners who may have wheeled the car excessively etc. I don't think Mazda,Honda or Toyota would clearcoat some colors and single stage others, too expensive, not even Porsche uses a single stage anymore.
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I think we're arguing in circles. I have my experience, I can't seem to convince you. My friend's Radiant Red Toyota has never seen anything other than wax and auto washes and is a 2003 model year and my towels come off red with Meguiar's ScratchX. Try it yourself. (shrug) Should be easy to find a Taffeta White 200x Honda accord around you.
ok br289165, Since we can't convince you that its single stage how about you show some data proving single stages aren't used anymore to convince us otherwise. Our proof is in the pudding (yellow rags), you're basing your case on unsubstantiated claims.
hmm that didn't take long, found this within a minute of posting this reply:
http://autopia.org/forum/click-brag/84390-2006-black-lexus-ls460-l.html
hmm that didn't take long, found this within a minute of posting this reply:
http://autopia.org/forum/click-brag/84390-2006-black-lexus-ls460-l.html
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First of all sethro, why are you so concerned about convincing me, why do you care what I think? Secondly, the link you provided shows a car of a completely different manufacturer. Maybe I was wrong about single stages not being used, but just because a Lexus (might ) have a single stage paint, that doesn't mean your car does, you might want to call the Mazda body shop to find out for sure, I know for certain mine is a base - clear finish. Lastly, anyone who uses off the shelf turtlewax to polish and wax their car shows what kind of experience or knowledge they have with automotive finishes. How old are you?
Give me some data please. I'm not convinced every color for every manufacturer uses the same application process.
Indeed, may I ask that of you? You are obviously an automotive coatings expert and will be able kindly educate the lot of us yellow P5 owners. If all I have to gauge experience on is the posts in this thread then Astral is the obvious paint care expert.
"I don't think" eh? Again give us some data to base this assumption on.
On the flip side why are you trying to convince us its not single stage? Do you have any experience with the yellow paint? Your avatar shows a black car.
Is there some point to this or is it just trying to insight flamage? Turtlewax is a reputable company and has been in business for many years. I stated that I found Mequiars to be a far superior product for restoring the shine after the polishing compound. I even was bored enough to find images representing the two companies and for my own amusement I put the rocket firing smiley face between them. Also is there another way of purchasing it other than "off the shelf"? Perhaps if you could tell me where the prescription strength turtlewax is I would use that.
You're kidding right? Would it make you feel better if I was 16 or 47? You pick and satisfy that ego of yours. (ohh crap thats some flame right there..)
Alright little buddy, you keep yourself busy playing with your turtle wax and towels, I'll be busy outside building my motor. It's been real interesting!
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A little update. My car looked like poo again since last fall when I polished it. Looks like its just going to take good discipline to keep this car shiny. However, I did find an excellent product for restoring the shine better and faster. Its mequiars Ultimate Compound, works waaaay better than polishing compound. I took some pictures that I'll post when I get them uploaded.
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Ok, so.... Whatever technique was used, it's crazy delicate. Both of my bumpers are dull and so are a few other spots on the car. I'm the third owner, so who knows how well it was cared for. I was planning on claybaring it, but now I'm wondering if it's gonna make it worse. I'm interested to see how the mequires compound works.
Finally uploaded the pics. See the captions above each one.
First pic, There is a tape line, if you look at it from different angles you can see it.
less color makes it easier to see the line. The shiny side was just one application of the ultimate compound.
A wider view of the same above picture, left side polished, right not.
Look at the difference between the right and left side. Picture doesn't show it as well as it looked, HUGE difference.
The next two are the left and right side below the tail lights, notice the difference in reflection of the tail lense.
Last pics of the waxed finished product. I've put another coat on since and it looks so shiny and new its amazing. I've become a real fan of single stage paints since they just keep getting better the more work you do.
First pic, There is a tape line, if you look at it from different angles you can see it.
less color makes it easier to see the line. The shiny side was just one application of the ultimate compound.
A wider view of the same above picture, left side polished, right not.
Look at the difference between the right and left side. Picture doesn't show it as well as it looked, HUGE difference.
The next two are the left and right side below the tail lights, notice the difference in reflection of the tail lense.
Last pics of the waxed finished product. I've put another coat on since and it looks so shiny and new its amazing. I've become a real fan of single stage paints since they just keep getting better the more work you do.
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