Anyone have clearcoat failure on their Protege 5 (yellow)?
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- 2006 Infiniti M
lol at thread title.
Why is it funny?
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there is no clear
Well that would be odd since my car has a clear film peeling off of it.
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no, you have a one stage paint thats peeling. there is no clear thats why it fades so badly
If its one stage paint, then why is there a clear film peeling and its still yellow underneath?
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there are multiple coats of paint on a car, you also have a layer of sealant on the top which could be peeling. yellow is well documented to be a) one stage and b) prone to bubbling/fading/etc. it is the worst color on the p5 for that
I contacted Mazda USA years ago about the paint. At the time the paint job was just fine, but when I wax/polish it some yellow was coming off. I contacted Mazda USA about this, below is the email. They said the yellow does have a clearcoat.
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2916892&postcount=12
The yellow is a single-stage paint. I was polishing out the oxidation yesterday and my polishing pads were all coming off yellow--this happens only if the paint is single-stage.
BTW, I restored my faded front and rear bumpers, as well as the faded door handles. I will post pics later...
BTW, I restored my faded front and rear bumpers, as well as the faded door handles. I will post pics later...
Sounds good. Please tell us what you used.
Do you have an issues with peeling? The only paint that is peeling on my car is the rear spoiler. Ive been meaning to remove it and get it painted. A local shop wants $100 to paint it. I am thinking about doing it myself, maybe black. What would be a good type of paint to use?
I hate to say it, but that e-mail from Mazda is wrong. There's no way I should be getting yellow paint on my pads or towels if the paint has clearcoat. That's a surefire way of distinguishing clearcoat vs single-stage.
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100 dollars is very reasonable and if its a good shop they have multiple swatches to match the faded color
I don't have anything peeling, mostly paint bubbling in places. Do you have pics of your paint peeling? You sure your rear spoiler wasn't repainted at some point in time? Does the paint look the same, texture-wise as your roof?
If you were to repaint the rear spoiler, I'd go with the same single-stage paint that's on the car.
Here's a test you can do, BTW, to see whether your spoiler has a clearcoat. Go to AutoZone and pick up a thing of Meguiar's ScratchX. ScratchX is a light abrasive that will remove light swirls and some oxidation and thus will take off a bit off paint. We can use this to see what kind of paint you have.
Using a soft light-colored applicator (make sure it's not yellow), work in a dime-sized amount of ScratchX to your side view mirror (work it in with circular motions with moderate pressure). Then using a soft microfiber towel (also do not use a yellow one), buff out the side mirror. You should see yellow stains/traces on your applicator and towel. (And also a shinier, less-faded mirror).
(Instead of a side view mirror, you can also use an inconspicuous area somewhere, e.g. a bottom corner of your rear bumper).
Then try the same thing on a section of your rear spoiler (away from the part that's peeling). Work in the ScratchX with the other side of the applicator (that's still clean and has no paint on it) and buff out with a side of the towel that hasn't been used. Look to see whether you have yellow paint on the towel or the applicator. If you don't have any yellow paint, your spoiler has paint with a clearcoat. (If you do have traces of yellow, then you have single-stage on the spoiler.)
Be sure the surfaces are clean before you start using ScatchX.
Also, if you want to double-check the logic, find a car with clearcoat (90% chance for most cars) and do the same test... if the car has clearcoat, the towels will not get any paint color on them (because clearcoat has no color).
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Here is a picture of when it started back in Feb 2007. Its about 10x worse now. I will take a picture of it when my wife gets home. Will post it later. Ive had the car since Dec 2001, so that is the original paint and spoiler.
Here's my thread with a bunch of pictures.
I know that none of them help your peeling paint! But if people are bummed about the faded paint bumpers, a lot of the time it's merely oxidation (a dead layer of the paint on top). This can often be buffed out and not necessitate any repaints.
If one is considering dropping the dough for a repaint, one should consider trying some oxidation removal with a machine polisher first.
In short, before/after:
Left side "after", right side "before" (look around the keyhole):
Now all is "after" (compare around the same keyhole):
See my thread for more pics and info.
I know that none of them help your peeling paint! But if people are bummed about the faded paint bumpers, a lot of the time it's merely oxidation (a dead layer of the paint on top). This can often be buffed out and not necessitate any repaints.
If one is considering dropping the dough for a repaint, one should consider trying some oxidation removal with a machine polisher first.
In short, before/after:
Left side "after", right side "before" (look around the keyhole):
Now all is "after" (compare around the same keyhole):
See my thread for more pics and info.
How many layers does a single stage have? Should I repaint or try to get the rest of this layer off and polish? ]
It all makes sense.... I bought a very dirty 03 P5 with heavily oxidized paint and I thought it was just poorly maintained. Started working it over with polishing compound and was getting all sorts of yellow up. I'm no paint guy but I know this means there is no clear coat. The spoiler looks shiny almost new and my guess is that the spoiler DOES have clearcoat on it.
I was able to recover the original deep yellow color by doing as follows:
1. Was car thoroughly and dry
2. park in the shade to cool body panels
3. Using turtle wax polishing compound (exactly as directions say to) polish all surfaces or just a panel at a time.
4. buff off the polishing compound residue and rinse thoroughly with water.
5. dry again
6. apply wax of choice, I used turtle wax 2000somethingerother.
7. marvel at the showroom shine, yes it does look new and the pastel is gone. Almost a perfect match to the new looking spoiler.
can't see it very well in my avatar but the hood looks new next to the fender (unpolished)
A friend of mine speculated it wouldn't be too hard to buff the oxidation off, don't wax it and have a shop spray a nice clearcoat on. I may look into this if the waxing doesn't hold up.
I was able to recover the original deep yellow color by doing as follows:
1. Was car thoroughly and dry
2. park in the shade to cool body panels
3. Using turtle wax polishing compound (exactly as directions say to) polish all surfaces or just a panel at a time.
4. buff off the polishing compound residue and rinse thoroughly with water.
5. dry again
6. apply wax of choice, I used turtle wax 2000somethingerother.
7. marvel at the showroom shine, yes it does look new and the pastel is gone. Almost a perfect match to the new looking spoiler.
can't see it very well in my avatar but the hood looks new next to the fender (unpolished)
A friend of mine speculated it wouldn't be too hard to buff the oxidation off, don't wax it and have a shop spray a nice clearcoat on. I may look into this if the waxing doesn't hold up.
