Anyone cut stock springs?
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HAHA...OMG...I can't believe he posted that up. Seriously...talk about ricing out your domestic. I want to see pics of these cars. Pics now..or it didn't happen.
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Why do you guys think Mazda has done some sort of revolutionary spring. A spring is a spring. I don't like Sunbirds or Cavaliers either, but the point wasn't the car. It was the spring. It doesn't matter if is a Honda, a Cavalier or a wagon. What kind of idiot would talk about putting a 240, Corolla or "small *** Civic" spring on a Mazda? Nobody even came close to saying that. Each spring is made for each car. If you cut one coil or less off, it will be the same. Just not as much travel. As I stated earlier, Tokicos are going on. So, it is not going to bottom out. If you guys come in on the 76th post and don't read the earlier posts, you missed half the conversation and probably don't have a clue what you are talking about. Which I am starting to think is true. Some of you guys sound like ricer snobs and you just assume nobody knows as much as you. You don't even know me or how many cars I've had. You sound like juveniles.
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Like I said, you act like you know me. How is it the other 10 or more cars didn't fail. What makes someone a professional by your definition?
Well stop talking and do it already. Your the cool kid cutting your springs, why did you even make this thread.
Let me know how it goes so I can laugh at you more.
You should call tein/eibach and tell them that by cutting the stock spring, you will get a much better results. Because spring rates means nothing and they just decided to raise it for the hell of it.
Let me know how it goes so I can laugh at you more.
You should call tein/eibach and tell them that by cutting the stock spring, you will get a much better results. Because spring rates means nothing and they just decided to raise it for the hell of it.
this thread gave me a headache.
Suspension is essentially geometric system. Your altering a part of the "equation" therefore resulting in a change in the rest of the system (for example a change in spring rate, pos/neg camber, toe in/out, etc). Is your car going to explode because you cut your springs? no. But you would be the last person I would want to be behind in a canyon cruise.
Suspension is essentially geometric system. Your altering a part of the "equation" therefore resulting in a change in the rest of the system (for example a change in spring rate, pos/neg camber, toe in/out, etc). Is your car going to explode because you cut your springs? no. But you would be the last person I would want to be behind in a canyon cruise.
MazdaSpeeder
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+1
red95_240sx
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The only time I'd consider cutting a spring is if the coils touched together like they do on a a progressive spring, so Id cut from the the top and the bottom if ur gon do it.
I'm am a 38 year old kid married for 20 years and have two kids. Now that you are wrong about that, let me tell you where else you are wrong. I never said Tein/Eibach should be a lower spring rate. I just want better damping with the stock spring rate. I'll do it when my struts arrive. Pay attention. I am finished arguing until I get done and post pics. Although I like to argue and I obviously came to the right place.
2003protege
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EXACTLY.
kboutsider
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Just so you can flame some more. Here are some pics of the my "rice". But do back peddle a little I do see what the nay sayers are going on about I wouldn't even think of cutting springs in the P5 it's just as simple to order springs, but back when I owned my GM's it wasn't that easy most of the parts I put on them had to be machined or fabricated which IMO is true modding but here they are as requested let the flaming begin:
One of my motor in my last 2nd Gen I was proud of the build so I like to show it off.
One of my motor in my last 2nd Gen I was proud of the build so I like to show it off.
shane02pro5
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You guys are looking way too far into all this! Lowering any vehicle will change the suspension geometry from it's original plan but it also lowers the center of gravity changing the way the geometry is applied. The stock springs have tighter coils at each end and to drop a 1/2" or whatever will have little effect on the spring rates and ride.
Adding a sunroof to a car would have more negative effects!
Adding a sunroof to a car would have more negative effects!
Man, all you guys and your "scientific" explanations make me laugh...
I would like to start by saying I don't suggest cutting springs to anyone, but IF done correctly, the only adverse effect will be the greater potential of hitting the bump stops.
Now, if I have a spring, doesn't have to be an automotive spring, and cut it in half, does it's spring coefficient change? If it is a linear spring, then no, it does not. I have not altered any of the material properties of the spring in any way (heat treating however, does have an impact and I highly suggest against doing this). Now with progressive springs it's a little different. Progessive springrates mean that as the spring compresses the coefficient (and therefore transferred force) increases. Instead of the force being a direct correlation (F=kx), the spring coefficient, k is now a function of x (F=k(x)*x). So in this case, cutting the spring will cause the rate to change. Cut off too much and the ride becomes bouncy. Cut off just a little and it will only be a little stiffer than stock. It's all about moderation. Too many people are are used to seeing guys cut off WAY too much and killing functionality. Truth be told, if done accurately and carefully, cutting the stock springs will result in a similar springrate and ride height as some of the progressive springrated aftermarket springs out there. I'm not saying you get the same quality, but the end result will be similar, especially with aftermarket shocks.
I would like to start by saying I don't suggest cutting springs to anyone, but IF done correctly, the only adverse effect will be the greater potential of hitting the bump stops.
Now, if I have a spring, doesn't have to be an automotive spring, and cut it in half, does it's spring coefficient change? If it is a linear spring, then no, it does not. I have not altered any of the material properties of the spring in any way (heat treating however, does have an impact and I highly suggest against doing this). Now with progressive springs it's a little different. Progessive springrates mean that as the spring compresses the coefficient (and therefore transferred force) increases. Instead of the force being a direct correlation (F=kx), the spring coefficient, k is now a function of x (F=k(x)*x). So in this case, cutting the spring will cause the rate to change. Cut off too much and the ride becomes bouncy. Cut off just a little and it will only be a little stiffer than stock. It's all about moderation. Too many people are are used to seeing guys cut off WAY too much and killing functionality. Truth be told, if done accurately and carefully, cutting the stock springs will result in a similar springrate and ride height as some of the progressive springrated aftermarket springs out there. I'm not saying you get the same quality, but the end result will be similar, especially with aftermarket shocks.
