Another SMIC ???

[Turbohoses]

Turbohoses ... dont take this the wrong way ... but you are doing the same thing that Max-Rev is doing. You all are hiding something from us, what the hell is so top secret that you cant share it with the group. Are ICs really that closely guarded of a secret? Is there something up with this SMIC that is making it a mater of national security? One thing that keeps coming to mind is that all these SMIC look exactly the same... i mean exactly. The CS one and the Max-Rev one side by side would be indestinguashable. I have never seen the Turbohoses one close up, but i would venture to guess that it is very close as well. I value your company as being one of the absolute best makers of parts out there right now (for the MSP), but can you shed some light on what is going on with all this hush hush ... secret BS?

It's very difficult to be in a position like ours and our competitors. We want to provide service and technical advise to our customers, but we want/try to avoid divulging any information that our competitors can access. As you already know, we provided much more information and service than most comapnies. Each of our local customers were shown the dyno chart and given explanations of detail incase they didn't really understand how a dyno chart should be read and analyzed.

This is an extremely small market and we still stand to lose our investment due to the time and R&D we've invested into the MSP. We often find that our products are just copied and sold cheaper. However, in the long term, it will pay off with a loyal following.

Consider the fact that most companies on this forum don't have the overhead we do. Most of them work out of their homes, friend's garage etc... and they don't have the risk we do. Each of our welders we employ are certified and formally schooled before employment, the machinery we use (dynos, bending machines, computers, CNC etc...) cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Each employee running those machines are specially trained for that specific task.

There's a lot more to it than just selling an IC.

Turbohoses R&D

 

[TheJohnny]

wow, this is getting good...... curious to see what all the hush hush stuff is...

 

[4001]

One thing that looks good about this SMIC is that it is a DIRECT replacement, fits all the mounting positions that the stocker does as well. I think TH said that theirs is a little moddified and does not "connect" in one location, said they were trying to fix that but dont know what happened with that.

 

[jaxmsp]

Unfortunately, I am unable to provide any additional information at this point. The data that we've provided exceeds what most companies will provide. Once the information is warranted, we will gladly give additonal information where it is deemed necessary.

We were obviously not the first company to develope a SMIC. However, we believe that are tested product does currently lead the pack. Also, there are a few details that we only exposed to our "customers" that pre-purchased the IC that made them extremely happy they made they choice they did.

Turbohoses R&D

So you had the intercooler independently tested by a third party, yet you are unwilling to divulge who that third party is? Most companies that realize such good results with their products (as you have indicated with your intercooler) seem proud and anxious to have an independent third party confirm the results to support consumer confidence. This is true regardless of size, type, or reputation of any industry/business/vendor.

Guess we'll have to wait for a member to test and post their results as independent third party confirmation -- proprietary, in-house results don't generally satisfy a consumer's smell test.

Holding my order pending some minimal confirmation of results...

 

[byohndspeed]

Someone just said that ... but they are incorrect ... you can clearly see the IC is a bar and plate.

actually i read it on the 1 info pfd prvided back on the first page of the thread..

 

[celdridge]

It's very difficult to be in a position like ours and our competitors. We want to provide service and technical advise to our customers, but we want/try to avoid divulging any information that our competitors can access. As you already know, we provided much more information and service than most comapnies. Each of our local customers were shown the dyno chart and given explanations of detail incase they didn't really understand how a dyno chart should be read and analyzed.

This is an extremely small market and we still stand to lose our investment due to the time and R&D we've invested into the MSP. We often find that our products are just copied and sold cheaper. However, in the long term, it will pay off with a loyal following.

Consider the fact that most companies on this forum don't have the overhead we do. Most of them work out of their homes, friend's garage etc... and they don't have the risk we do. Each of our welders we employ are certified and formally schooled before employment, the machinery we use (dynos, bending machines, computers, CNC etc...) cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Each employee running those machines are specially trained for that specific task.

There's a lot more to it than just selling an IC.

Turbohoses R&D

Now that makes more sense ... thanx for the explination.

 

[celdridge]

actually i read it on the 1 info pfd prvided back on the first page of the thread..

i dont know why they say that ... looking at it if very muchs looks bar and plate to me ... doesnt it to you. Strange ... ill call him today and say wtf?

 

[Turbohoses]

One thing that looks good about this SMIC is that it is a DIRECT replacement, fits all the mounting positions that the stocker does as well. I think TH said that theirs is a little moddified and does not "connect" in one location, said they were trying to fix that but dont know what happened with that.

There is no modification necessary for our IC.

Turbohoses R&D

 

[4001]

There is no modification necessary for our IC.

Turbohoses R&D

I didnt mean you have to moddifiy the car but it is not an exact OEM fit

Take from the Turbohoses SMIC results thread

1. The factory fan has one bolt that mount to the OEM IC. We can and have made a proto-type that fits all of the bolts, however it is extremely time consuming. We would have to add an additional 100.00 to the IC to retain that single bolt.

 

[Turbohoses]

I didnt mean you have to moddifiy the car but it is not an exact OEM fit

Take from the Turbohoses SMIC results thread

1. The factory fan has one bolt that mount to the OEM IC. We can and have made a proto-type that fits all of the bolts, however it is extremely time consuming. We would have to add an additional 100.00 to the IC to retain that single bolt.

Actually, we haven't reposted the latest proto-type and information regarding the bolt for the fan. We have only notified our distributors that we are making a version that fits the factory bolt.

Turbohoses R&D

 

[4001]

So it is an OEM fit in all regards...cause ya coulda just said that

 

[msp4you]

do they have a website?

~brian

http://www.maxrev.com

 

[byohndspeed]

i dont know why they say that ... looking at it if very muchs looks bar and plate to me ... doesnt it to you. Strange ... ill call him today and say wtf?

yes it does look like a bar and plate..

 

[celdridge]

http://www.maxrev.com

yeah ... i found their site too ... but there is no information about parts for the MSP.

 

[b00sted]

yea

 

[mspeed101]

yeah ... i found their site too ... but there is no information about parts for the MSP.

Hiboost and Ion dont have any info on thier websites either. I guess you just have to contact them for info.

 

[Bhamsan]

which is better, bar and plate or tube and fin? What is the difference? Someone asked this earlier and no one responded. Just a little curious.