Those results I have are correct, remeber it's km/h and 100 km/h is close to 65 mph. 60 mph is about 96.4 km/h. I got my numbers from the canadian automotive network. And it's the average of many runs. not the best run. Remember, a car will not perform exactly the same every single time. The top speed shown on my post are not the result of a 1/4 mile run but the actual top speed of the vehicle if it's gouvernor limited or not.
Acura TSX vs. Mazda 6 (V6)
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100 km/h is 62 mph
Your results are off. 0-62 in 7.2 isn't the Mazda 6s's performance. Its 6.4 seconds. Thats a big difference. I'm just pointing out that the results you posted are slower then the results posted by other magazines and users.
Visit the forums, thats about the average speed of the vehicle, as show in MULTIPLE time slips and races.
Your results are off. 0-62 in 7.2 isn't the Mazda 6s's performance. Its 6.4 seconds. Thats a big difference. I'm just pointing out that the results you posted are slower then the results posted by other magazines and users.
Visit the forums, thats about the average speed of the vehicle, as show in MULTIPLE time slips and races.
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i would say tsx.
crossbow said:
It's possible. But in the end I dont care about an amazing 0-60 as long as it's under 8 seconds. I do want something luxurious but sporty in the same time. For now I am more and more leaning towards the 6. But I dont know, the car has 157 problems per 100 vehicles according to J.D. powers, and next year, I wont have as much time or patience as I did for the Mazda 3 GT to take into service almost every freaken week. Btw, I was driving today, my sister and her friend were in the car, this guy with a Jetta Turbo was gettin a lil excited with his car so we get to the light it turns green, he has a lil of a head start cause he was still rollin at the light it turned green like as soon as I stopped, and it was drag race all the way, once I get to the higher RPM's that guy was finished, all the windows were open so it was so sweet to hear the engines of the cars. I hit 120 km/h in a 30 km/h zone, same thing for the other guy except it took him more time. Stuff like this makes me a proud Mazda owner and makes me want to have another one. And my car had 2 other ppl other than me he had no one in his.
Plastic is cheap. Plastic is lightweight. Plastic doesn't soak heat. Plastic doesn't rust. Plastic is easily modified with basic tools.
What else do you want?
You can always just pull the plastic covers off. Doesn't look as pretty though.
Using the km/h to mph conversion, 100 km/h is 62.1 mph.
1 kilometers per hour = 0.621371192 miles per hour
100x0.621 = 62.1
The mazda 6s does 0-100 km/h in under 6.5 seconds. Or about .7 seconds faster then the TSX. (This of course is JUST straightline performance)
What else do you want?
You can always just pull the plastic covers off. Doesn't look as pretty though.
Using the km/h to mph conversion, 100 km/h is 62.1 mph.
1 kilometers per hour = 0.621371192 miles per hour
100x0.621 = 62.1
The mazda 6s does 0-100 km/h in under 6.5 seconds. Or about .7 seconds faster then the TSX. (This of course is JUST straightline performance)
Um no.
Alumnium has a major problem/advantage with absorbing heat. Thats why its used in things like heatsinks and radiators.
Its also MUCH heavier then plastic for the same amount of space.
The fact that most of the intake system (including the manifold) is plastic, helps prevent the intake charge from being heated by engine soak.
Alumnium has a major problem/advantage with absorbing heat. Thats why its used in things like heatsinks and radiators.
Its also MUCH heavier then plastic for the same amount of space.
The fact that most of the intake system (including the manifold) is plastic, helps prevent the intake charge from being heated by engine soak.
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I would definitely buy the TSX unless you want to mod your car. Then I'd suggest getting the 6i & the HiBoost turbo kit. (2thumbs)
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HAHA, you think plastic doesn't heat soak. (smash) Ask any of the MSP owners who still have the stock IC pipes to show you their engine after they have been driving hard or for a long time out in the heat.crossbow said:
acura = a little higher quality but nothing to brag about
m6= a lot better styling, a heck of a lot more fun to drive because it handles so well for a big car, and has more variants ( wagon, hatchback which is awesome, and sedan)
Personally, I'd go M6. Not just because I'm a Mazda owner, as I have also owned 8 honda's. But to be honest, the v6 in the m6 worries me a little being that it is based on a ford block. Just my own paranoid anti-ford self though. The 4 cyl is all Mazda
And your times for the Mazda6 V6 are wrong, or maybe for the auto tranny as the v6 even brand new is getting 0-60 ~ 6.6 sec. I can't comment on the tsx
Now, if you were talking about the acura TL.....no contest, TL all the way.
m6= a lot better styling, a heck of a lot more fun to drive because it handles so well for a big car, and has more variants ( wagon, hatchback which is awesome, and sedan)
Personally, I'd go M6. Not just because I'm a Mazda owner, as I have also owned 8 honda's. But to be honest, the v6 in the m6 worries me a little being that it is based on a ford block. Just my own paranoid anti-ford self though. The 4 cyl is all Mazda
And your times for the Mazda6 V6 are wrong, or maybe for the auto tranny as the v6 even brand new is getting 0-60 ~ 6.6 sec. I can't comment on the tsx
Now, if you were talking about the acura TL.....no contest, TL all the way.
Newf said:
I couldnt agree more with you about the V6. In the end, we are either getting a FULLY loaded M6 V6 (not even considering the 4 cyl.) or an Acura TSX which is already FULLY loaded.
Now let's get back on topic. I dont think I would want to drive a Ford built engine. And I have the same concerns as you. I have no need for an amazing 0-60 time as I get all my fun racing my dad's STI subaru whenever I go to Europe. I will still anyway test drive both cars in Manual trim, cause that's how I want it.
About the TL, dude, I find it RIDICULOUS to put 270 horses on 2 front wheels, I love the looks the power the drive and everything, but I would never even consider buying a TL unless it were an all wheel drive or rear wheel drive. I would be druling. Btw there are rumours that an all wheel drive model will be out in 2005 here in Canada. We are also getting the European SMART from Mercedes which will not be available in the US. And check out the 2005 protoype RL, it's a beauty, 300 horsepower 3.5L V6 i-VTEC Acura-BREMBO high performance brakes, AWD, and everything else to Bash those high end Mercedes and BMW's. This car looks much nicer and much more refined http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/previews,view,Acura.spy?artid=23706&pg=1
I am still undecided, I do have another month or two at least to think about it. But time flies which is why I am getting opinions from now.
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You should also consider the resale value. I considered the same thing as you before buying my 6. I ended up finding a used loaded S model for 18k and change and bought it. New for new, and rebates at the time the Acura was a better buy from year 2 on in the pocketbook. The Acura was more up front due to rebates on the Mazda but by year 2 it had caught up due to the resale value.
I assume you have IAT readings to back this up? Or are you just doing the old "I'm touching it and its hot, so its gotta be hot".Black Majik MSP said:
Plastic acts as an insulator, protecting the aircharge from the hot engine bay. On the mazda 6, numerous tests have been done on the stock airbox, with air intake temp readings from scanners (not hands), through various mods and intakes, to see how the air temp was effected when certain actions were done. (Like gutting the airbox).
People who switch to methods which use shorter pipes drawing air in from the SAME area as the stock airbox, but alumnium instead of plastic, have reported massive increases in temperature. The plastic stock air intake system IS protecting the air charge from heat, as proven through temp readings.
No their not. They are correct times for the 6s MTX's performance. As mentioned earlier, and through provided url of time slips, the Mazda 6s MTX is much faster then originally tested in early 2003.
Road and Track's latest article on the Mazda 6 was
June 2004
Page 137
Long Term Test (Mazda 6s MTX)
And they clocked the 0-60 at 6.4 seconds.
Further more, if you look at time slips for many of the 6s's drag racing, most of them are sub 15 seconds STOCK. 7.2 second 0-60 times don't net you a 14.82 in the 1/4.
Car#... 57
Class... T
Dial ...
R/T ... .419
60' ... 2.285
330... 6.315
1/8.... 9.628
MPH... 74.26
1000... 12.468
1/4 .... 14.874
MPH ... 93.60
There's a nice plate of speed evidence for you to digest.
What do you think the 3.0L is? Its a duratec aswell.Da 6 said:
For 1/4 mile debate, you guys have to keep in mind there is usualy up to a 1/2 second varioence from magazine to magazine. Hell on the STi car and driver tested it to 13.2 seconds. However in the back under there reviewed cars perfomance lists, they have it at 13.6.
As for handlings, I test drove a TSX and Mazda 6s on the same day and I did not notice one being superior. As others have said, the TSX is definitly a more luxury ride but it can get into the corners. THe 6 has more road feel but I didn't think it superior through high speed turns.
Like any acura the nice thing is that the TSX comes fully loaded. THe only options are exterior and Navigation. THe resale value of an acura is untouchable. I believe the Integra is still one of the best resale value cars of all times. Hell 96 Integra Ls are still above $13K depending on milage. They lost less then $8K in value in 8 years!!
Stlyling wise, the TSX is a great look car without the body kist but the kit makes it alot better. I find the Mazda 6 just boring without the sports pakcage body moldings.
As for the heat soak, we have to keep in mind one of the pipes in the MSP has air that is sometimes hotter then the temp under the hood. The mazda6 being NA simply sucks in cool outside air. The MSp on the other hand, has a turo that dramaticly heats the air coming in. SInce metal transfers heat and plastic doesn't, then I have to assume that the MSP stock pipes actualy keep the heat loc into the intake track where as the metal can act as a heat sink to remove some of that heat. Although I think the main reason for theimproved perfomance with metal pipes in the MSP is from a better flow ability from having good bends and no bellow style bends.
1sty, I was responding to newf comment that the 3.0 was the only duratec of the 2 Mz6 platform engines (US/CAN).
and mikey444, if you own the 3...it's got a duratec(FORD) block as well.
and as for v6 mazda 6 times....breath people...it's the internet so don't take it so personal...
and mikey444, if you own the 3...it's got a duratec(FORD) block as well.
and as for v6 mazda 6 times....breath people...it's the internet so don't take it so personal...
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