400+ whp MS3 on pump gas

[Cherryvodka]

1. One of the biggest myths is that the car can't make power due to fueling. With upgraded fuel pump internals there's plenty of fuel to more than 450whp and beyond.
2. Stay away from the ATP turbo's if you want to make power, they just don't flow nearly as much as their T3 counterpart. The exhaust housing chokes those turbos. For example, I doubt a ATP gt3076r could make 415whp unless the exhaust housing was ported.
3. Even if you don't go big turbo run methanol injection. The stock tune is pretty agressive timing wise as stock/near stock cars tend to knock significantly. On its own you can use a mixture of methanol injection that is suited more for lowering BAT's(ie. more methanol) or cooling the combustion chamber (more distilled water).
4. Cp-e SB/Flashes is/are the best tuning option available for the car.
5. Buy a good intercooler


Old dyno (since this dyno, timing was increased, methanol injection was added and boost was increased to 24 psi)

 

[bigdaddy]

I like this... haha, bring on the flaming though. I know its a myth, but is there massive torque steer? I'd imagine, but maybe not...

 

[8.5MS3]

:bs:

hi cagey

 

[JamesCH]

Are you claiming over 400whp with only the mods listed in your signature?

 

[i8urgti]

I like this... haha, bring on the flaming though. I know its a myth, but is there massive torque steer? I'd imagine, but maybe not...

id have to imagine so. i've driven stock ms3 and it had no tq steer, and thats amazing in its self for a fwd car with that much power. i drove the same car when it was at aprox 320whp and still, very mininal tq steer. no traction on that car lol but no tq steer either

EDIT: at 400whp, id have to imagine some tq steer on a fwd car. there is only so much you can do to restrict it

 

[destrux]

Since he said "buy a good IC" I'd imagine that all of his mods aren't in his sig, since I see no IC listed.

Proper wheel offset and smooth pavement will do wonders for torque steer. Too bad most roads around here look like they vacationed in Iraq.

 

[Cherryvodka]

 

[mrdouble99]

These are big numbers, even on a dynojet

 

[onelsono]

very nice... how is the car on the street? lots of spinning? would you advise going big turbo on stock internals?

 

[creedns]

he's fully built if i recall

 

[onelsono]

^ yup i know, i want to know if he would recomend going big on stock internals

 

[Cherryvodka]

very nice... how is the car on the street? lots of spinning? would you advise going big turbo on stock internals?

It all depends on how much boost you plan on running, and the setup you have on the car.

 

[ms6acton]

wow nice numbers!

 

[onelsono]

It all depends on how much boost you plan on running, and the setup you have on the car.

idk man. what setup would you sugggest to run it safely? im asking bc you seem to be knowledgable on this..

 

[Speed3Rookie]

nice numbers.
are your afr in the 14s or am i missing something?

 

[Cherryvodka]

idk man. what setup would you sugggest to run it safely? im asking bc you seem to be knowledgable on this..

Cp-e FP/Mr. Lil guy FP
Good intercooler ie. garrett/precision/bell engineering
T3 gt3076r .82 ar, T3 pte 5857 .82 ar
Meth 50/50 mix
Cp-e SB/Flashes
Tuning is very important

 

[Cherryvodka]

nice numbers.
are your afr in the 14s or am i missing something?

No the afr's are high eleven's. The WB on the dyno was not attached to the car b/c i have an aem wb.

 

[Speed3Rookie]

No the afr's are high eleven's. The WB on the dyno was not attached to the car b/c i have an aem wb.

great...thanks for sharing.

 

[onelsono]

Cp-e FP/Mr. Lil guy FP
Good intercooler ie. garrett/precision/bell engineering
T3 gt3076r .82 ar, T3 pte 5857 .82 ar
Meth 50/50 mix
Cp-e SB/Flashes
Tuning is very important

why SB and not AP?

 

[ReNaToMS3]

why SB and not AP?

You should read more about the "wall" that CP-e broke with the SB that the AP hasn't broken yet.

SB is good for stock turbo cars as wells as BT cars. If you're going BT, then SB is pretty much your only option to go over 400whp. Not saying that the AP can't do it but it seems most people that are built are going the SB way.

I chose the AP myself because i don't have big plans like others, more tuners available in my area that use the AP, and more info available to use the ATR so you can tune the car yourself.

Awesome numbers for the OP btw, that's great.