2016 vs. 2016.5

[Kedis82ZE8]

DrewNL: I've never heard of anyone doing it so answers are going to be few and far between.

At minimum probably an entire new seat as the pieces may exceed the cost of the entire assembly. The non-memory seat will lack any of the sensors or potentiometers necessary to establish limits and present position.

Wiring harness connectors present, additional control unit, additional programming to enable feature? I'd like to hope it was plug and play but likely wishful thinking.

Someone will undoubtedly tackle this but you may have to sit back and wait a while.

Here is a non-memory seat wiring diagram. I haven't seen one with option.

 

[Kedis82ZE8]

Here is wiring diagram for memory power seat... it says for non-memory seat but slide is incorrect.

A position memory control module is involved.

Powered passenger seat schematic is here.

PMCM is mounted under the seat

The following 4 sensors are utilized.

 

[Anchorman]

Mine has the memory seat. I would think its all onboard the seat base so they can just add them as required. You set the seat to the desired position including the lumbar support and then press the set and the number you want it assigned to in quick succession.

The LED headlights are astonishing. There is a sensor up in the screen which sends info to 24 main beam LEDs (the dipped beam is fixed). The sensor will command a variety of functions. It automatically dips in a well lit street. It automatically dips if a vehicle comes towards you. It automatically dips when you follow a vehicle but only at the point where the vehicle is. It can select main beam either side of the target so your range is improved. Unlike the CX-3 I had previously, the lights do not physically move but when you turn the wheel it adjusts the arrangement to see into the turn. They are pure white (no blue hue) and they have very long range. The headlights also have an additional 3 LEDs in the side of each headlight. These will work with dipped beam and come on both sides to form a floodlit area around the front of the car when you pull up at junctions so you can see pedestrians and bikes etc. There might be a YouTube clip somewhere.

 

[Anchorman]

Here it is

 

[yrwei52]

Here is wiring diagram for memory power seat... it says for non-memory seat but slide is incorrect.

A position memory control module is involved.

Powered passenger seat schematic is here.

PMCM is mounted under the seat

The following 4 sensors are utilized.

In addition to all of these, all motors for position adjustments have to be changed to step-motors so that every power adjustable position can be saved and resumed. Memory seat is not easy to add if it's not from factory and the cost is too high!

 

[yrwei52]

So does this mean up to 4 memory positions can be configured? Two with FOBs and two with seat buttons? Or as many extra keys as you have?

https://www.mymazda.com/MusaWeb/pdf/manuals/2016_CX-5_Owners_Manual.pdf

Page 2-8

"Individual seat positions can be programmed to the two available programming buttons on the side of the driver's seat, plus one seat position for each
registered keys"

No, you still only have two memory positions total. Each key associates one memory position out of two. In other words, each memory seat button associates to one key. You assign memory position 1 to you wife's key fob and you have position 2 assigned to your key fob. Memory seat position 1 is saved for your wife and position 2 is save for you. When your wife with her key opening the door, memory seat will automatically adjust to position 1 and your wife is ready to seat in and drive. The same to you if you're the one opening the door with your key fob, the seat will automatically adjust to position 2.

Memory seat in CX-5 is the simplest one. CX-9 can memorize outside rear-view mirrors. Others can memorize headrest height, steering wheel position as long as they're power adjusted.

 

[Kedis82ZE8]

No, you still only have two memory positions total. Each key associates one memory position out of two. In other words, each memory seat button associates to one key. You assign memory position 1 to you wife's key fob and you have position 2 assigned to your key fob. Memory seat position 1 is saved for your wife and position 2 is save for you. When your wife with her key opening the door, memory seat will automatically adjust to position 1 and your wife is ready to seat in and drive. The same to you if you're the one opening the door with your key fob, the seat will automatically adjust to position 2.

Memory seat in CX-5 is the simplest one. CX-9 can memorize outside rear-view mirrors. Others can memorize headrest height, steering wheel position as long as they're power adjusted.

Wording just made it seem like more.

I'm familiar with it in my Infiniti... it does the full seat (except lumbar-air bladder), mirrors and steering wheel column/dash up down and telescopic options. The latter even adjust as you actively adjust the seat while sitting in the car....mapped to FOBs too

 

[yrwei52]

Mine has the memory seat. I would think its all onboard the seat base so they can just add them as required. You set the seat to the desired position including the lumbar support and then press the set and the number you want it assigned to in quick succession.

The LED headlights are astonishing. There is a sensor up in the screen which sends info to 24 main beam LEDs (the dipped beam is fixed). The sensor will command a variety of functions. It automatically dips in a well lit street. It automatically dips if a vehicle comes towards you. It automatically dips when you follow a vehicle but only at the point where the vehicle is. It can select main beam either side of the target so your range is improved. Unlike the CX-3 I had previously, the lights do not physically move but when you turn the wheel it adjusts the arrangement to see into the turn. They are pure white (no blue hue) and they have very long range. The headlights also have an additional 3 LEDs in the side of each headlight. These will work with dipped beam and come on both sides to form a floodlit area around the front of the car when you pull up at junctions so you can see pedestrians and bikes etc. There might be a YouTube clip somewhere.

What you guys have in Europe is ALH, iActivSense Adaptive LED Headlamps. This is advanced LED headlight system without any moving parts. Unfortunately in the US we have much less sophisticated LED headlight system with AFS just like old HID headlights. AFS is a mechanical device with moving parts and motors.

 

[Kedis82ZE8]

A 50-Year-Old Regulation Stops Us From Getting Cool Headlights

 

[Anchorman]

A friend of mine is a firefighter and once had to attend an incident where a person had been crushed by an auto seat that had pinned him between the steering wheel. I think it was a Range Rover but not 100% sure.

 

[xtrailman]

Mine has the memory seat. I would think its all onboard the seat base so they can just add them as required. You set the seat to the desired position including the lumbar support and then press the set and the number you want it assigned to in quick succession.

The LED headlights are astonishing. There is a sensor up in the screen which sends info to 24 main beam LEDs (the dipped beam is fixed). The sensor will command a variety of functions. It automatically dips in a well lit street. It automatically dips if a vehicle comes towards you. It automatically dips when you follow a vehicle but only at the point where the vehicle is. It can select main beam either side of the target so your range is improved. Unlike the CX-3 I had previously, the lights do not physically move but when you turn the wheel it adjusts the arrangement to see into the turn. They are pure white (no blue hue) and they have very long range. The headlights also have an additional 3 LEDs in the side of each headlight. These will work with dipped beam and come on both sides to form a floodlit area around the front of the car when you pull up at junctions so you can see pedestrians and bikes etc. There might be a YouTube clip somewhere.

I've found the LED head lights no better than the previous model with xeons, and both have the dip set too low for night driving at any real speed.
But i have the standard LEDS, not the optional extra 800 auto dip system.

 

[Anchorman]

I've found the LED head lights no better than the previous model with xeons, and both have the dip set too low for night driving at any real speed.
But i have the standard LEDS, not the optional extra 800 auto dip system.

I paid 800 for the safety pack. Maybe the headlights were part of that?

Edit, yes they were. The trouble with them is that I get quite engrossed in watching them perform. I'm not keen on the lane assist pictured, it actually pulls the steering if you wander toward the edge of a lane. I might use that only on long journeys. It also sounds buzzers and tells you to stop and take a break.

 

[craigo]

In addition to all of these, all motors for position adjustments have to be changed to step-motors so that every power adjustable position can be saved and resumed. Memory seat is not easy to add if it's not from factory and the cost is too high!

I wonder if they actually use different motors. Or if the motors are simply part of the mount the seat is attached to and the answer is to simply swap the mounts.

 

[lexxluthor]

I am new to this forum and recently added the 2016.5 to our stable in the last 2 weeks. My wife has the 2016 sport and I do not see any difference in looks between the 2016 and 2016.5. We have the awd sport model in both. My wife thinks the steering is slightly different but I don't see or feel any changes. Both have backup camera and nav. I will take a look later and do a more thorough comparison on both.

 

[mazdafollower]

Here is wiring diagram for memory power seat... it says for non-memory seat but slide is incorrect.

A position memory control module is involved.

Powered passenger seat schematic is here.

PMCM is mounted under the seat

The following 4 sensors are utilized.

Thanks for the links to the Mazda Service Manual. Is there a table of content page where one can follow to various chapters of the manuals? I don't seem to see a TOC button, only the PREV/NEXT buttons. thanks.