2009 Ward's top 10 engines

[Alexsered]

The 2.3l DISI Turbo isn't on the list anymore, I am surprised by some on the list like the 5.7l hemi or the honda 3.5l SOHC.


Audi AG: 2.0L TFSI turbocharged DOHC I-4 (A4 Avant)
BMW AG: 3.0L turbocharged DOHC I-6 (135i Coupe)
BMW AG: 3.0L DOHC I-6 Turbodiesel (335d)
Chrysler LLC: 5.7L Hemi OHV V-8 (Dodge Ram/Challenger R/T)
Ford Motor Co.: 2.5L DOHC I-4 HEV (Escape Hybrid)
General Motors Corp.: 3.6L DOHC V-6 (Cadillac CTS)
Honda Motor Co. Ltd.: 3.5L SOHC V-6 (Accord Coupe)
Hyundai Motor Co. Ltd.: 4.6L DOHC V-8 (Genesis)
Toyota Motor Corp.: 3.5L DOHC V-6 (Lexus IS 350)
Volkswagen AG: 2.0L SOHC I-4 Turbodiesel (Jetta TDI)


On a side note, what is mazda going to do with the 2.3L DISI motor? I havent seen it mentioned in any of it's future cars.

 

[ElGaspo]

a 6 liter overhead valve engine is one of the world's top 10?!? in the 21st century? this engine is a dinosaur, and it sucks down precious dino juice. what are these people smoking & where can i get some? (smoke)

 

[Donas64]

I think some of the DISI's issues might have kept it off (the seals etc) but not a bad list of engines.

 

[Kain]

a 6 liter overhead valve engine is one of the world's top 10?!? in the 21st century? this engine is a dinosaur, and it sucks down precious dino juice. what are these people smoking & where can i get some? (smoke)

I'd take tried-and-true anyday. Just because pushrods and leaf springs are older tech doesn't mean they don't perform well.

 

[fatti03msp]

how the hell is the 5.7 hemi on that list, that motor is garbage.

 

[Alexsered]

I'd take tried-and-true anyday. Just because pushrods and leaf springs are older tech doesn't mean they don't perform well.

true that, we actually agree on something kain. (thumb)

 

[ElGaspo]

I'd take tried-and-true anyday. Just because pushrods and leaf springs are older tech doesn't mean they don't perform well.

true dat. no wonder Formula 1 relies so heavily on ohead valves & leaf springs. who would want 19k rpm engines & carbon fiber, when you can have carburetors & solid rear axles eh?

 

[Alexsered]

true dat. no wonder Formula 1 relies so heavily on ohead valves & leaf springs. who would want 19k rpm engines & carbon fiber, when you can have carburetors & solid rear axles eh?

lol, don't formula one engines only really run one race with all of it's parts?

 

[fatti03msp]

FSDE should def. be on that list haha.

 

[Kain]

true dat. no wonder Formula 1 relies so heavily on ohead valves & leaf springs. who would want 19k rpm engines & carbon fiber, when you can have carburetors & solid rear axles eh?

I lawl'd. By that rationale, open-wheel design should filter down to the consumer, too. I want to run negative-offset wheels without having to roll fenders, dammit!

 

[ElGaspo]

lol, don't formula one engines only really run one race with all of it's parts?

2 races. why, how many races does a NASCAR engine last? as a matter of fact, as long as we're talking outdated, wasteful technology, instead of at least using different parts on 1 car, i believe teams use a different car, each w/ its own suspension setup etc for each different track. how sane is that? instead of swapping springs & shocks, they build a car specifically for the 1 race of the yr on that track. 20 races, 20 cars...yee-haw! and let's not forget...once you get up to 4th gear [!] you leave it there for the rest of the race. racing at its finest it ain't (second)

 

[ElGaspo]

By that rationale, open-wheel design should filter down to the consumer, too. I want to run negative-offset wheels without having to roll fenders, dammit!

as a matter of fact, if your car has 4-valves and fuel injection you have F1 technology to thank. they were both originally developed for those cars. open wheel racing tech does indeed filter down- on good cars, that is. if things were up to FoMoCo and GM, we'd still be rolling on solid rear axles- like the stang still does...

 

[Kain]

as a matter of fact, if your car has 4-valves and fuel injection you have F1 technology to thank. they were both originally developed for those cars. open wheel racing tech does indeed filter down- on good cars, that is. if things were up to FoMoCo and GM, we'd still be rolling on solid rear axles- like the stang still does...

I'm just bustin' your and anyone else's balls who use the "well, dedicated race cars use it" argument to discount the benefits of holding on to "ancient" tech. Yes, I'm well aware of the trickle-down effect of technology from the race track to the street. Win on Sunday, sell on Monday, right?

 

[Alexsered]

as a matter of fact, if your car has 4-valves and fuel injection you have F1 technology to thank. they were both originally developed for those cars. open wheel racing tech does indeed filter down- on good cars, that is. if things were up to FoMoCo and GM, we'd still be rolling on solid rear axles- like the stang still does...

check out the video of TOP GEAR where Richard Hammond learns how to drive an F1 car. The show was okay, but the part where they talk about the car and engine themselves is insane. Like the engine has to be hooked up to an oil pump to keep the oil pumping and heated to a certain temperature or else the cylanders and crap will seize up and wont start. F1 is the craziest thing on wheels on earth, but those engines are strong and fragile at the same time if that makes any sense.

Anyway, I don't know that much about f1, but I did learn alot from that top gear show. Some of that technology might be ancient, but at least we know it works

 

[Donas64]

I'd take tried-and-true anyday. Just because pushrods and leaf springs are older tech doesn't mean they don't perform well.

Ergo: Corvette in all guises.

Pushrod V8 & leafsprings FTW!!!

 

[Young Roids]

I have lost confidence in WARDs top ten list ever since I found out the disi is not such a great motor quite a few are blowing up and proving unreliable.

 

[stockms3]

check out the video of TOP GEAR where Richard Hammond learns how to drive an F1 car. The show was okay, but the part where they talk about the car and engine themselves is insane. Like the engine has to be hooked up to an oil pump to keep the oil pumping and heated to a certain temperature or else the cylanders and crap will seize up and wont start. F1 is the craziest thing on wheels on earth, but those engines are strong and fragile at the same time if that makes any sense.

Anyway, I don't know that much about f1, but I did learn alot from that top gear show. Some of that technology might be ancient, but at least we know it works

I love F1 I wish my parents had the money to push me towards F1 racing when I was younger

 

[MicaSp33d]

I have lost confidence in WARDs top ten list ever since I found out the disi is not such a great motor quite a few are blowing up and proving unreliable.

yea, its unreliable because people mod it and it blows ...

i don't think its the engine's fault ...

 

[Alexsered]

I have lost confidence in WARDs top ten list ever since I found out the disi is not such a great motor quite a few are blowing up and proving unreliable.

I think the ratio of people blowing their motors to the people that are completely fine is probably 1 in 1000. And usually the people blowing their motors are modded pretty heavily. So in stock trim, the DISI is an awesome motor.

 

[Donas64]

what about the issue with the seals and smoking? Isn't that happening on stock motors? And if so, might that not cause the DISI to be left off the list?