$2000 for mods..... what should I get

azian6er said:
Dood, you are off base. Who do you think I am, some racer boy who throws parts at cars for no reason, or just because spending money - go fast? If so, you really have construed me in the wrong light.

I have tried SO MANY combinations with this car, 3 different turbos, 3 EMS', and various other modifications/ideas. All I am saying is that if i had it to do over again, i would have done it this way.

Why waste money on internals if they arent broken? thats ludicrous. The sotck rods can go for 250whp if not more if treated correctly (ie enough fuel, high octane gas, cold charge temp). 505 zoom has already demonstrated this.

All i was telling the poster was that if he wanted his car to go the fastest it could for the amount of money allocated ie. 2K, then these would be the mods. I stand by that list, and I really find it amusing that you think you know more than I because you have read all the posts from various users on the forums regarding our bad engines etc.

I would put my 2K setup against yours any day of the week for reliability and power.

So in essence, people like YOU crack ME up haha.

DOoOoOd.....how am i off base? We are arguing because you told the poster to buy a 1100 turbo to reach the goals he stated. I know i'm not a rocket scientist (dont worry you arent either) but i do know that if the stock turbo can reach his goal and do it efficiently, then it would be a complete WASTE of 1100 dollars to swap turbos.

Lol, a "racer boy who throws parts at cars for no reason." when did i ever imply that?! i used to think you were a credible poster but i dont really think so anymore. spending a grand on somehting not needed is absurd.

"If you had to do it again, i would have done it this way." He doesnt want to know what you wouldve done to your car, he wants to know what HE should do to reach HIS goals. Obviously you and the poster have different goals.
Who cares what combinations you have put on your car, the point of the matter is still the same thing. the stock turbo is more than enough for what this guy wants. and does anyone else remember whyyyyyy he should keep the stock turbo. im thinking becasue its already on teh car and it doesnt cost an additional 1100 dollars...

Why do you keep giving the 505zoom example. ok he did it. he has 1000 mods. his engine is holding. now look at the hundreds of others who havnt been able to last. i remember kicker was pushing 240 or somthing in that range and he blew his engine. there are countless people who blow em. 03msp i think thats his name had full standalone prolly running about 250whp and he blew his engine recently.

"I really find it amusing that you think you know more than i because you have read all the posts from various users on the forums regarding our shitting engines etc. I would put my 2k setup against yours any day of the week for reliability and power." OMFG and now i can officially call you a racer boy. lets start at the beginning. when did i say i knew more than you. I SAID what you said about upgrading the stock turbo is absurd. WTF would he waste 1100 dollars when he doesnt need to for the goals hes looking for (just in case you didnt remember, this is the entire point of the argument ONCE again). What does reading posts on the forum have to with the point i am making? it should be a fact by now. anyone with common sense could comprehend what i am saying.

LOLOL you would put your 2k setup against mine. 1) WTF are you calling me out to race (extremely racer boyish, nice ;) 2) your little advice isnt 2k. its clearly over 2k and thats being generous with pricing. its humorous how you said he needs the boost gauge, well thats more money,and then you said borrow a wideband. he definitely needs a wideband if he wants to tune. how many people have buddies who have a wideband?





You imply you are god's gift to import tuning. I know i am not by anymeans. ONE LAST TIME here is the point im trying to make.........when the stock turbo (oh yea its on the car, its already paid for, there is no installation or modifications needed) will produce the power he needs to reach his car (and some), then upgrading to a larger turbo is a complete waste of 1100 dollars (not to mention the hassle of installing).

I think you said it best earlier, So in essence, people like you Azian6er, crack me up.......
 
JOMO said:
The majority fo people who blew there blocks did something wrong. Too much boost with no tuning, abusing their car. Me.. I did also blow my motor, but that was my fault. Running lean in the upper rpms and not taking care of it.

The origional poster could reach his goals with stock turbo..yes, but azian6er is just saying for the best bang for the buck to get or exceed your goals. I agree with him 100%.



that makes no sense and it is out of context. yes it is a bang for your buck turbo BUTTTTTTTT here it is once again, its a waste of money for the guys goals. we are not arguing if an upgraded turbo is better than the stock one. no s*** it is. but when the stock one spools up quickly and puts down the power he is looking for then YESSSS it is a waste of money to buy a 1100 turbo giving him only 900 dollars left for other mods.
 
mspHtown said:
DOoOoOd.....how am i off base? We are arguing because you told the poster to buy a 1100 turbo to reach the goals he stated. I know i'm not a rocket scientist (dont worry you arent either) but i do know that if the stock turbo can reach his goal and do it efficiently, then it would be a complete WASTE of 1100 dollars to swap turbos.

Lol, a "racer boy who throws parts at cars for no reason." when did i ever imply that?! i used to think you were a credible poster but i dont really think so anymore. spending a grand on somehting not needed is absurd.

"If you had to do it again, i would have done it this way." He doesnt want to know what you wouldve done to your car, he wants to know what HE should do to reach HIS goals. Obviously you and the poster have different goals.
Who cares what combinations you have put on your car, the point of the matter is still the same thing. the stock turbo is more than enough for what this guy wants. and does anyone else remember whyyyyyy he should keep the stock turbo. im thinking becasue its already on teh car and it doesnt cost an additional 1100 dollars...

Why do you keep giving the 505zoom example. ok he did it. he has 1000 mods. his engine is holding. now look at the hundreds of others who havnt been able to last. i remember kicker was pushing 240 or somthing in that range and he blew his engine. there are countless people who blow em. 03msp i think thats his name had full standalone prolly running about 250whp and he blew his engine recently.

"I really find it amusing that you think you know more than i because you have read all the posts from various users on the forums regarding our shitting engines etc. I would put my 2k setup against yours any day of the week for reliability and power." OMFG and now i can officially call you a racer boy. lets start at the beginning. when did i say i knew more than you. I SAID what you said about upgrading the stock turbo is absurd. WTF would he waste 1100 dollars when he doesnt need to for the goals hes looking for (just in case you didnt remember, this is the entire point of the argument ONCE again). What does reading posts on the forum have to with the point i am making? it should be a fact by now. anyone with common sense could comprehend what i am saying.

LOLOL you would put your 2k setup against mine. 1) WTF are you calling me out to race (extremely racer boyish, nice ;) 2) your little advice isnt 2k. its clearly over 2k and thats being generous with pricing. its humorous how you said he needs the boost gauge, well thats more money,and then you said borrow a wideband. he definitely needs a wideband if he wants to tune. how many people have buddies who have a wideband?





You imply you are god's gift to import tuning. I know i am not by anymeans. ONE LAST TIME here is the point im trying to make.........when the stock turbo (oh yea its on the car, its already paid for, there is no installation or modifications needed) will produce the power he needs to reach his car (and some), then upgrading to a larger turbo is a complete waste of 1100 dollars (not to mention the hassle of installing).

I think you said it best earlier, So in essence, people like you Azian6er, crack me up.......
gay (hump) and not even worth responding too.

SO, -- to the starter of this thread -- PM me if you want to make your car reliably fast for 2K, and I will set out a plan that will do precisely that.

msphtown - enough is enough, im not going to argue over this, it is completely juvenile and as you so succinctly stated previously -- you are right he will decide to do with his car what he wishes. My opinion was just that, an opinion. So please stop frolicing around trying to prove people wrong in an attempt to make your e-msp-penis seem to grow larger...\

We have our separate opinions, and let lets just let bygones be bygones...
 
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azian6er said:
gay (hump) and not even worth responding too.

SO, -- to the starter of this thread -- PM me if you want to make your car reliably fast for 2K, and I will set out a plan that will do precisely that.

msphtown - enough is enough, im not going to argue over this, it is completely juvenile and as you so succinctly stated previously -- you are right he will decide to do with his car what he wishes. My opinion was just that, an opinion. So please stop frolicing around trying to prove people wrong in an attempt to make your e-msp-penis seem to grow larger...\

We have our separate opinions, and let lets just let bygones be bygones...

"not even worth responding to." clearly you are not a rocket scientist, you just responded.....

"So please stop frolicing around trying to prove people wrong in an attempt to make your e-msp-penis seem to grow larger..." WTF are you talking about. you gave awful advice and im warning the original poster to not take it. im not on this forum to be better than other owners. Nice touch on adding the "e-msp-penis." As you stated earlier, "it is completely juvenile."

to the original poster, do whatever you want but dont waste your hard earned money on a something not needed. i hope you have enough intelligence to comprehend why spending 1100 dollars on a turbo uograde is unnecessary.
 
Wow, this thread got aweful fast ....

Well in short ... I would reccommend an EMS over anything that was argued about so far. The stock tune is horrible and it will do wonders for your car. The AFC is only 6 wires (4 of those are t-taps), and a boost line. It seriously took like 30 mins to install (in the parking lot of my appartment building). It is great for the money and can tune via a lap top.

I'm not going to debate about stock turbo or upgraded turbos, but do a little more research. Your goal can be achieved with bolt ons. Just keep an eye out for used parts and you will have a zoomin msp in no time at all. Make a wish list and just keep finding used parts. Thats what I would have done if I could actually hold on to money without spending it.

I posted on the first page with a nice will wish list that will make you have a totally different car for under 2 grand. Just my 2 cents. If you need any help at all or any questions about what I posted just ask and i'll see if i can find the answer or tell you where to go to get the answer.
 
Boosted03MSP said:
440cc's (get them used from a WRX) $75-$100


wrx injectors are a direct replacement or do they need to be wired in, surprisingly i've heard here and there about them but don't know a straight forward complete answer. thanks
 
Direct replacement.





RevLimitLaunch said:
wrx injectors are a direct replacement or do they need to be wired in, surprisingly i've heard here and there about them but don't know a straight forward complete answer. thanks
 
awesome!!! and im guessing that any wrx/sti injector should work then? or is it just the older style wrx ones?
 
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hi everyone remember me...........I am on page one....in fact i started this thread and had know idea this would happen. Its funny how I start a thread...ask for some bumps...get some good answers and I leave it alone for a couple of weeks and this happens. On top of all this I took the 2 grand and bought a 91 mr2 turbo that ran 12.5s but had a blown head gasket so I fixed it and now I have a 12.5 mr2. So thanks for the comments, and I still have my msp but I think the moral of the story is "your not going to get 12.5 in the quarter mile from a msp for 2k" thanks guys
 
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