2 blown coils. Dealer cant figure it out. Anti-theft light flashing

rynzms3

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08.5 MS3, 93 FD, 10 6 GT
I took the car to a car wash yesterday. As I was pulling in, it died. My dashhawk told me a high voltage code and high fuel pressure in rail. Not too sure what the other one was. (I know it would help) Anyhow, I popped the hood to find smoke bellowing from under the airbox. (I have the corksport FMIC) I quickly unhooked the battery. I pulled off the airbox to find coils # 1 & 2 were melting. I removed my SB2 thinking it had gone bad and tried to start it again. As soon as I turned the key to the on possition, without cranking, the coils began to burn again. I called a flatbed, took 2 hours so I washed the car inside and out. Dealer doesnt have coils in stock (live in alaska) and it will take a week to get them. The car has two months left on the warrantee but they are giving me s*** because they think that I have the SB2. I removed it before washing the engine bay. I still have the switch for my two maps but the wires are just cut and hanging. I lied and told them I only had a boost controller to stop from hitting boost spikes and blowing the bottem end because of my CS DP.

Today, they started it, drove it out of the shop and it died. The anti-theft light was blinking. The key no longer worked. They cut and programmed another key. It started for a minute and then died with the anti-theft light blinking. The dealer then called me to have me bring my spare key. This time it did not start and the anti-theft light just blinked. The tech told me that they have to push it back in the bay and then check the ECU to see if its burned up. Some new service guy is telling me that I have some igition control module that caused the ECU to blow and the coils to burn but they are sending it up to Mazda to see if they will cover it. I know they will not if they are saying I have a piggy back EMS. I took it all out so they cannot see it and so now, they only think that it was once there. They also said the the ECU stores all past info and they will be able to tell if I had a piggy back. Is this true? I thought that the ECU reset itself when you unhooked the battery.

Has anyone else gone through this? Is my ECU probably burned up? I dont understand why the car wouldnt recognize the keys. I know that the signal for the keys have to go through the ECU before being recognized by the key control system. I have the CP-E full control and boost cut flashes on my ECU so im hoping that I dont have to pay for a new ECU too because that means I have to spend another 500 bucks getting the flashes again.

Please help me. I dont know what I should do. Has anyone ever gone through this before? Is it best that I order the coils and ECU myself and do the work myself? Will any MS3 ECU work for a 2008?

Any info will help. Thanks!

Ryan
 
Still nothing from the dealer today. I know ECU's from 3000GTs inside and out. These speed3's I have not done my research yet. Nor do I have time. I did find some moisture in the wiring harness connector so im thinking this may have been the cause of the problem. The key issue still stumps me. At first they worked, now they dont. I will hopefully hear something from the dealer tomorrow. Im thinking that they are not going to cover it.

Are there any differences between the Speed3 ECUs? I would imagine that Gen2 ECUs are slightly different. What are the differences? Would any Gen1 ECU work? And someone explain to me why the keys worked, then when the dealer checked things out, they did not work. My last question is will the factory ECU store information on it from my SB? I imagine that they will find the flashes on the ECU and tell me that this is why the coils popped.

Any info will help. Im sure I will get flamed for being a retard but oh well... at least I will learn something.
 
Well if your ECU is toast, the dealership will likely have a difficult time proving ECU tampering.
 
well they were able to tell me that they got information from the ECU. Does this mean that it is not toast? Im pretty sure that it is still gone. There is probably a burnt spot on a board somewhere in there. They sent all of the info to mazda but have not heard anything back yet. The dealer is pretty certain they are not going to cover it. Oh well, I guess Im buying an ECU if they dont. They wanted pictures and what not. One of the service guys tried telling me that I had an AP because I left the DH mount in there. What an idiot. I should have just left the dashhawk in the car. It does say MSD on it so then he would have told me that its an igition control module. LOL. Techs are idiots over there. The best that they can do is send everything up to MNA for them to figure it out.

So... does anyone know where I can find a used ECU? I have checked ebay and other place but cannot find anything. Im probably stuck buying new arent I?
 
MNA has a data recovery contract with NSA

NSA? Why? I basically work for the NSA and cant think of any reason they would have a recovery contract with them. Maybe something like a contract in order to use some of the agency's software and programming?
 
I don't know, rynnzms3...I'm not from your country and sometimes your strange tribal rituals and customs baffle me but, I think there's a possibility of sarcasm, as we call it, here, from meical.....
 
I think you are pooched on the deal, man. From what I have read about ECU upgrades on this forum, Mazda is gonna catch you!!!!
 
I don't know, rynnzms3...I'm not from your country and sometimes your strange tribal rituals and customs baffle me but, I think there's a possibility of sarcasm, as we call it, here, from meical.....

And now I feel like an idiot myself... :/
 
I think you are pooched on the deal, man. From what I have read about ECU upgrades on this forum, Mazda is gonna catch you!!!!

Figures. Oh well. I just need to find 2 coils and an ECU now. I called CP-E to have them check out my SB and they said that they would re-flash the new ECU as well if I paid shipping. I love those guys!

Time to post in the classified for an ECU.
 
I don't know, rynnzms3...I'm not from your country and sometimes your strange tribal rituals and customs baffle me but, I think there's a possibility of sarcasm, as we call it, here, from meical.....
I love rituals
 
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...e-for-dealing-with-Mazda-Dealers-amp-Mazda-NA

This is why you are where you are.
That, and the decision to apply voltage to a circuit you knew to be shorting.
And spending 2 hours wasing the car, instead of making it look stock

I took the car to a car wash yesterday. As I was pulling in, it died. My dashhawk told me a high voltage code and high fuel pressure in rail. Not too sure what the other one was. (I know it would help) Anyhow, I popped the hood to find smoke bellowing from under the airbox. (I have the corksport FMIC) I quickly unhooked the battery. I pulled off the airbox to find coils # 1 & 2 were melting. I removed my SB2 thinking it had gone bad and tried to start it again. As soon as I turned the key to the on possition, without cranking, the coils began to burn again. I called a flatbed, took 2 hours so I washed the car inside and out. Dealer doesnt have coils in stock (live in alaska) and it will take a week to get them. The car has two months left on the warrantee but they are giving me s*** because they think that I have the SB2. I removed it before washing the engine bay. I still have the switch for my two maps but the wires are just cut and hanging. I lied and told them I only had a boost controller to stop from hitting boost spikes and blowing the bottem end because of my CS DP.

Today, they started it, drove it out of the shop and it died. The anti-theft light was blinking. The key no longer worked. They cut and programmed another key. It started for a minute and then died with the anti-theft light blinking. The dealer then called me to have me bring my spare key. This time it did not start and the anti-theft light just blinked. The tech told me that they have to push it back in the bay and then check the ECU to see if its burned up. Some new service guy is telling me that I have some igition control module that caused the ECU to blow and the coils to burn but they are sending it up to Mazda to see if they will cover it. I know they will not if they are saying I have a piggy back EMS. I took it all out so they cannot see it and so now, they only think that it was once there. They also said the the ECU stores all past info and they will be able to tell if I had a piggy back. Is this true? I thought that the ECU reset itself when you unhooked the battery.

Has anyone else gone through this? Is my ECU probably burned up? I dont understand why the car wouldnt recognize the keys. I know that the signal for the keys have to go through the ECU before being recognized by the key control system. I have the CP-E full control and boost cut flashes on my ECU so im hoping that I dont have to pay for a new ECU too because that means I have to spend another 500 bucks getting the flashes again.

Please help me. I dont know what I should do. Has anyone ever gone through this before? Is it best that I order the coils and ECU myself and do the work myself? Will any MS3 ECU work for a 2008?

Any info will help. Thanks!

Ryan
 
The ECU stores the information of the SB and the two flashes I have from CP-E. Having this covered under the warantee was slim to none anyways.
 
and when ECUs go, they pop like popcorn. It went before I washed anything. The decision to apply voltage again was after all harness were clear of moisture and inspected for cuts/breaks/shorts. It went and there was no stopping it.
 
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