MP5 2003 N/A Dyno Results

[noob2protege5]

Updated
Mods include.

AWR Hard Front Mount, Passenger side Inserts (stock rear and driverside)
Injen CAI (with Ventalation duct Insolation wrap)
Taller Copper Sparkplugs (increased Compression)
Nology Wires (Wrapped with heat insolation)
OBX Header
Racing Beat Cat-Back
Fidenza Flywheel
Stage 1 clutch
OBX UDP
Rota Slipstream with Falken Azenus 215/45/16

WHP = 118.58
TQ = 123.45

What gains will I see with a AFC, Cams, or Cam Gears?




Updated 4-11-08
Installed Split Second AFC
Increased WHP +5
Increased Torque +1.5

 

[Tom03es]

Those are some nice numbers.

 

[niky]

Air-fuel control should get you another 5 horses or so... but the big ones come from both air-fuel and ignition control.

Cams... depends... best find cams and then ask about it... :lol:

 

[NCZ13]

me likey

so far
obx header
RB CBE
CAI

some my numbers should be somewhere around there. im estimating 112-113 whp w/o and 120ish wtq w/o the lightened flywheel and UDP?

 

[noob2protege5]

yeah, you should have around 112-113 without the fly and UDP.

 

[MazdaSpeeder]

Should new mounts add any power robbed by drivetrain lash?

 

[shane02pro5]

Definately new mounts, short shifter, and weighted shift knob will feel like a different car.

 

[noob2protege5]

yeah, love the shortshifter, Kartboy bushings and the engine mount. The Mounts increase throttle response and the short shifter is just so fun.

 

[niky]

Mounts won't show up on the dyno, since you're already hooked up by the time they start pulling a reading off the machine, but they make a hell of a difference in response on the road.

 

[jamesk]

mounts can show up on the dyno, depending the condition on how bad the old ones are. but it would not be more than a horse power or two.

but yea you would fell a great difference on the road with mounts. there important. they protect all your parts and everything works alot smother. just do not try to drink coffee or anything when your at a red light, lol.

 

[MrH42]

Not to try and be a negative nancy, but all those mods just added up to a small gain in torque, and a few horsepower? I was hoping headers and a catback would yield more than that.

 

[Tom03es]

^^Welcome to the world of small displacement NA 4 cylinders!

 

[JLBMP5]

Not to try and be a negative nancy, but all those mods just added up to a small gain in torque, and a few horsepower? I was hoping headers and a catback would yield more than that.

In a car that comes off the show room floor at 100 hP an added 11 to 15HP gain is a respectible gain.

 

[MrH42]

These cars should dyno at well over 100 whp, or it's overrated from the factory. 130 hp at the crank, even with 20% drivetrain loss (which is more than what's commonly used), still makes more than 100 hp at the wheels.

 

[MP3Performance]

The problem is there is no V-TECHK.

 

[djarkitek]

These cars should dyno at well over 100 whp, or it's overrated from the factory. 130 hp at the crank, even with 20% drivetrain loss (which is more than what's commonly used), still makes more than 100 hp at the wheels.

there have been some completely stock, low mile n/a proteges that have dynoed at 90hp and barely above that....getting 100 horsepower out of a manual stock n/a is hard even..lame but true.

 

[Circuit]

there have been some completely stock, low mile n/a proteges that have dynoed at 90hp and barely above that....getting 100 horsepower out of a manual stock n/a is hard even..lame but true.

Guess I'm one of the lucky few then. Dyno'ed my car (stock 5spd P5) a couple weeks ago and hit 100.1 whp and 100.7 wtq on a Mustang dyno (which yield lower numbers than Dynojets).

 

[niky]

Really depends on the dyno... on a dynojet, it's no biggie to hit 100 whp with a stock FSDE (MT)... but on a Mustang, it'll probably be a different story.

Heck, I've read as high as 141 on a Dynapack, (with my previous sucky set-up...)...

Dynos are good for checking gains, but as absolute measures of power... naaah.

 

[dwpeek]

Within the next month you will see my dyno results w/o the flywheel. I will be adding a J-Spec intake cam, AWR engine mounts and the 626 intake.

STA TUNED

 

[LordWorm]

These cars should dyno at well over 100 whp, or it's overrated from the factory. 130 hp at the crank, even with 20% drivetrain loss (which is more than what's commonly used), still makes more than 100 hp at the wheels.

a good way of way of determining the drive train loss on these cars is:

Fly wheel KW = Wheel horsepower....more or less

130hp at the crank equates to around 97kW, so 97hp at the wheels.

Its a good yard stick for these cars. Its not 100% accurate of course, but its more accurate than just assuming a 20% loss.


since when is a 20% drivetrain loss "more than what is commonly used"?

different cars, different transaxles etc will lose different amounts.....i've never heard of 20% being a yardstick for FWD transmission loss....