A Rebuild Story - A Forged MP3 Motor

Turbo Performance:

For those that care....

Evo III 16G ported turbo on Spool tubular manifold.

2nd gear: 5 psi at 3400 rpm's 10 psi at 3880 rpm's
3rd Gear: 5 psi at 3000 rpm's 10 psi at 3440 rpm's
4th gear: 5 psi at 2820 rpm's 10 psi at 3120 rpm's

Later!

Steve
 
Also, I hooked up the VICS finally today. The microtech is now driving it at whatever rpm I tell it to. So I have it kicking on at 4500 rpm's right now... you can feel when it kicks on... kinda surprising... and it really leaned out my AFR's, so obviously considerably more air gets going with those things closed. So I'll be testing that more as I can on the dyno... but since it screws with AFR's so badly it'll be hard to really run it each way... but definitely interesting. Also got my CAI in, and cleaned up more of my wiring. Engine bay looks better. :)
 
Bought my spare transmission... should have that in a week or two... and then I can start upping the boost in the car... also, I'll be converting my new transmission and reinforcing it and testing our fix to see if it will indeed hold over 400 horse as we expect :)

Later!

Steve
 
Kooldino said:
Oh man, you did the Beavis Block one better. :)

that is all Terry's doing before... when I get my parts from Roni I'm remot mounting the thermostat housing down by the oil pan so I can run a bigger O2 housing and downpipe :)
 
TurfBurn said:
that is all Terry's doing before... when I get my parts from Roni I'm remot mounting the thermostat housing down by the oil pan so I can run a bigger O2 housing and downpipe :)

okay, okay, i'm getting them soon for you. i think i will ship the box by monday and ship the remaining mounts asap.:rolleyes:
 
Hehe, I remember when I told him his downpipe was too tight I told him...why not also produce this and have no more clearance issues....

So the EVO III turbo looks a bit small, but its a beast! How much was it?

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igdrasil said:
Hehe, I remember when I told him his downpipe was too tight I told him...why not also produce this and have no more clearance issues....

So the EVO III turbo looks a bit small, but its a beast! How much was it?

The Evo III ported and with a flapper upgrade was 650 shipped... Without the port and flapper you can get them for around 550 shipped. There is a thread somewhere comparing it to the GT28RS... they match eachother very closely... the GT28RS is a bit more efficient (about 5 or 6% more peak efficiency and probably roughly 2-3% overall greater efficiency)

But yeah... talk about performance for the buck though! :)
 
Bump for a insanley stupid, fast Car! I drove it last week and it's crazy fast at what 12 psi? Shall I post the vids?
 
actually that was only 9 psi... yeah knock yourself out if you can get them uploaded at a good size or anything :)
 
Working on it... :) I hope to do it before the end of the month... trying to figure out some tune things... feels like when I advanced my timing more I got slower... so now I'm trying to figure that out... but I'm doing that, more timing work, some fuel adjustments, and then some injector timing stuff and then off to the dyno for the first time... :) soon soon I hope!
 
oh... doh never posted dyno numbers... My sig shoes it... and it's attached... 261 at 13 psi in a 101 degree dyno room with very little fan air flowing over the bay.

Current update:
Still consuming/losign oil at a good rate but no idea where the hell it is going as I'm not leaving soot on the rear of the car, and I don't have any visible leaks... It MAY be leaking at the oil feed and is burning up on the turbo and turbo manifold.. that is my only theory at this point... but I'm losing roughly 1 quart per 1000 miles.

Lost a bunch of coolant this last week or so... no ideas what is up with that... may have been the excessive heat (we hit 100 degrees a couple of times) or I may have a leak somewhere... my only "worry" is that since I haves studs on the head that it could be working loose and I'm starting to seep coolant into the engine or something... but oil looks and smells clean so not worrying about that one yet.. .but I am monitoring it closely right now.

Car is running great otherwise... I also found my boosting problem... I had trouble on the dyno getting it to hold a solid and even 13 psi without boost "bounce" and the like... turns out it is the wastegate actuator... with the ported wastegate I have so that the turbo doesn't creep, it was overpowering the actuator (which mounted normally was holding 7 psi if left to it's own devices). I shimmed the actuator mount by about 1/4" with some washers and it then held 10 psi on it's own. Worked perfectly at hitting 13 psi... and starts to get a bit finicky when trying to do 15 psi... I may have to shim it more... it does have enough play in it to be ok and not cause spiking and creeping so I can shim more yet...

Big modifications that i want to make to the car.... remote mount of the thermostat so I can run my true 3" DP and cast O2 housing which should make an absolutely MASSIVE difference in the performance (my DP is like 2-2.25" right now and welded like crap). And also fixing a warped flange on the exhaus manfiold. Once that is done I'll also be doing some cooling and gear changes on the transmission to get that to hold up better... those couple of things should get the car fitte dmuch better..

Eventually plan to replace the actuator with a stiffer/bigger one so I can run 20 psi of boost without issue... but that requires a lot of modification to the actuator and the stupid things run like 150 bucks which is not cheap for what it is...

So that's the word... car is fast as hell and is hysterical to shock people on the highway with :).

later!

Steve
 

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TurfBurn said:
oh... doh never posted dyno numbers... My sig shoes it... and it's attached... 261 at 13 psi in a 101 degree dyno room with very little fan air flowing over the bay.

Current update:
Still consuming/losign oil at a good rate but no idea where the hell it is going as I'm not leaving soot on the rear of the car, and I don't have any visible leaks... It MAY be leaking at the oil feed and is burning up on the turbo and turbo manifold.. that is my only theory at this point... but I'm losing roughly 1 quart per 1000 miles.

Lost a bunch of coolant this last week or so... no ideas what is up with that... may have been the excessive heat (we hit 100 degrees a couple of times) or I may have a leak somewhere... my only "worry" is that since I haves studs on the head that it could be working loose and I'm starting to seep coolant into the engine or something... but oil looks and smells clean so not worrying about that one yet.. .but I am monitoring it closely right now.

Car is running great otherwise... I also found my boosting problem... I had trouble on the dyno getting it to hold a solid and even 13 psi without boost "bounce" and the like... turns out it is the wastegate actuator... with the ported wastegate I have so that the turbo doesn't creep, it was overpowering the actuator (which mounted normally was holding 7 psi if left to it's own devices). I shimmed the actuator mount by about 1/4" with some washers and it then held 10 psi on it's own. Worked perfectly at hitting 13 psi... and starts to get a bit finicky when trying to do 15 psi... I may have to shim it more... it does have enough play in it to be ok and not cause spiking and creeping so I can shim more yet...

Big modifications that i want to make to the car.... remote mount of the thermostat so I can run my true 3" DP and cast O2 housing which should make an absolutely MASSIVE difference in the performance (my DP is like 2-2.25" right now and welded like crap). And also fixing a warped flange on the exhaus manfiold. Once that is done I'll also be doing some cooling and gear changes on the transmission to get that to hold up better... those couple of things should get the car fitte dmuch better..

Eventually plan to replace the actuator with a stiffer/bigger one so I can run 20 psi of boost without issue... but that requires a lot of modification to the actuator and the stupid things run like 150 bucks which is not cheap for what it is...

So that's the word... car is fast as hell and is hysterical to shock people on the highway with :).

later!

Steve

Glad to hear she's coming along. So what's this DP/cast O2 assy look like? Any pics we can look at?
 
here is the dp comparison pic... it doesn't do the size difference justice... in person it's like WTF!!! LOL :)
 

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TurfBurn said:
Car is running great otherwise... I also found my boosting problem... I had trouble on the dyno getting it to hold a solid and even 13 psi without boost "bounce" and the like... turns out it is the wastegate actuator... with the ported wastegate I have so that the turbo doesn't creep, it was overpowering the actuator (which mounted normally was holding 7 psi if left to it's own devices). I shimmed the actuator mount by about 1/4" with some washers and it then held 10 psi on it's own. Worked perfectly at hitting 13 psi... and starts to get a bit finicky when trying to do 15 psi... I may have to shim it more... it does have enough play in it to be ok and not cause spiking and creeping so I can shim more yet...

I ran into this also, I ended up running a 10psi wastegate spring and a secondary spring with an adjustable bleed mbc.
 

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