Demand that Mazda Reprogram Our Mazdas

[wlong01]

Ther will be a long delay - or it may never happen - while all the challenges go through the courts. Part of the issue is that this does not just affect greenhouse gases, but it also affects human/animal and vegetation health, as well as just plain smog. Remember the LA basin before the restrictions came in?

I don't think there will be a long delay since the regs were initiated by the EPA, not Congress and the EPA is removing them.

 

[cxha]

Correct. The CAFE standards are gone. The i-Stop and cylinder deactivation features will likely be eliminated going forward, because they are expensive, lead to an inferior product, and are no longer needed to meet federal requirements. My point is that Mazda should now correct the existing vehicles that have these features to improve their products for existing customers as well.

The entirety of the rest of your post is political propaganda, and I agree with the moderators that such nonsense is inappropriate.

Assuming Mazda were to offer a reprogramming to remove the iStop, it would be interesting to see what effect, if any, it would have on actual fuel economy. Owners who have driven miles with that feature enabled would have some real world numbers to compare it to.

In total agreement with you about that political rhetoric being presented as fact when it is an opinion, nothing more.

 

[N7turbo]

In total agreement with you about that political rhetoric being presented as fact when it is an opinion, nothing more.

I know you're referring to my post, but I can sleep at night knowing it is factual. I've been following this issue for a very long time. Feel free to research the science of climate change and the industry efforts to cast doubt on it to sway the public and hamstring regulations. It really is no different than the other issues I listed: leaded gasoline, cigarette smoke, DDT, CFCs. All fought fiercely by those industries.

As for fuel economy, I'd like to know as well, if only to confirm if it's something like 0.5 mpg on average. You would think cutting off half your injectors would net you more, but the duty cycle on the remaining two have to tick up a bit, so I guess the net effect is small.

 

[bojo]

I sure hope you are able to achieve this. This is just unbelievable. Not to digress, but I wonder if they will bump up the 0w20 engine oil recommendation for the non turbo cx5 to 5w30 now? As far as start stop and CD, those are two things i made SURE i didnt get in my 2025 cx5 non turbo. So I dont blame you.

 

[MyFirstMazda]

Yes.

Okay lol

 

[SWCX5R]

Why don't you figure out how to do this and inform us, otherwise this is a moot point thread. Mazda doesn't *have* to do anything.

 

[RedBaron]

I don't think there will be a long delay since the regs were initiated by the EPA, not Congress and the EPA is removing them.

Heh! So no one has ever sued the EPA?

 

[wlong01]

Heh! So no one has ever sued the EPA?

Yep, many times but how many times has the plaintiff actually prevailed? The EPA created the ruling and the EPA ended it and the govt. has tons of lawyers and money.
This goes far beyond I-Stop and CD.

 

[CrazyHippie]

Why don't you figure out how to do this and inform us, otherwise this is a moot point thread. Mazda doesn't *have* to do anything.

My impression is that many have tried to defeat CD and so far there's no solution. Certainly Mazda doesn't have to do anything, but if we band together and make our voices heard, maybe they'll respond! It would be so nice to 'opt in' to either feature instead of opting out of i-Stop every time you start the car and no choice with CD!

 

[CrazyHippie]

Ther will be a long delay - or it may never happen - while all the challenges go through the courts. Part of the issue is that this does not just affect greenhouse gases, but it also affects human/animal and vegetation health, as well as just plain smog. Remember the LA basin before the restrictions came in?

Hi! VERY good concern! Yes, I do remember living in a cloud of photochemical smog. Not in LA, but in Washington DC in the 60's as a child before catalytic converters and when there was still lead in gasoline. I suffered miserably during that time with allergies and respiratory problems. What largely fixed things was the Clean Air Act that EPA initiated when the Agency was created in 1970 (IIRC). I would never advocate going back to those times! But i-Stop and CD have nothing to do with air quality - they're recent strategies in response much more recent regulations that are now lifted.

 

[RedBaron]

But i-Stop and CD have nothing to do with air quality - they're recent strategies in response much more recent regulations that are now lifted

True. But my understanding is that ALL restrictions are lifted, not just the recent ones.

NOTE: I'm not a proponent of CD or iStop. In fact I installed a module on my CX-50 to disable iStop right after I bought it! But neither do I want to go back to the bad old days.

 

[CrazyHippie]

True. But my understanding is that ALL restrictions are lifted, not just the recent ones.

NOTE: I'm not a proponent of CD or iStop. In fact I installed a module on my CX-50 to disable iStop right after I bought it! But neither do I want to go back to the bad old days.

I hope that the Clean Air Act remains in place!

Edit: Yes, the Clean Air Act is intact. What was repealed rolls regs back to terminate all federal greenhouse gas emission standards for vehicles for model years 2012 through 2027 and beyond.

 

[wlong01]

I hope that the Clean Air Act remains in place!

Edit: Yes, the Clean Air Act is intact. What was repealed rolls regs back to terminate all federal greenhouse gas emission standards for vehicles for model years 2012 through 2027 and beyond.

The Clean Air act is unaffected. This is what the EPA did in 2009 without congressional approval.

 

[N7turbo]

The Clean Air act is unaffected. This is what the EPA did in 2009 without congressional approval.

Regulations generally don't require congressional approval (there is a whole process, including a comment period). And the Endangerment finding had already been upheld by the Supreme Court.