Hilarious, but that's not actually what they did.
Correct. The CAFE standards are gone. The i-Stop and cylinder deactivation features will likely be eliminated going forward, because they are expensive, lead to an inferior product, and are no longer needed to meet federal requirements. My point is that Mazda should now correct the existing vehicles that have these features to improve their products for existing customers as well.
I posted no such thing. Only the facts of what is happening. As I stated, just news, and no opinion/politics.
So, in that thought process, conversely, should Mazda/EPA/CARB demand that a customer who bought a car in, say, 2014 that was not equipped with CD or i-stop bring their vehicle into the dealership four years later in 2018 to be retrofitted (at the car owners expense) with those features because that's what is needed to be compliant in 2018?
You have fair points and I agree that there should be a choice. But the regs that spawned these features, which many owners view as detrimental, are now gone. There should be no regulatory barriers for Mazda to rectify this, especially with the well-established history of mechanical failures that are attributed to i-Stop and CD. If those of us who object to this band together, Mazda may actually respond.So, in that thought process, conversely, should Mazda/EPA/CARB demand that a customer who bought a car in, say, 2014 that was not equipped with CD or i-stop bring their vehicle into the dealership four years later in 2018 to be retrofitted (at the car owners expense) with those features because that's what is needed to be compliant in 2018?
No, because Mazda manufactured that 2014 vehicle in compliance with the regulations that were in effect at the time of manufacture.
If the pendulum swings the one way and let's say the 2027 model is back to the "L" engine with no CD. Fine. If that's what you like and it's worth it to you, go trade in your car for the new one and folks who like the couple of mpg that i-stop and CD bring can look for your used car on the lot.
I'm no fan of these CD / i-stop features and own vehicles that do not have them on purpose.
Oh, and I don't see this thread making it through the day before lockdown haha
I agree! I didn't start this to generate a political debate. I've seen a number of threads on this forum regarding i-Stop and CD with stories about mechanically related problems and thought that sharing a possible opportunity to petition Mazda to provide a solution would be well-recieved. If others aren't interested in the topic, then maybe the thread will fail. Hopefully this won't happen!There’s no reason the discussion can’t remain on topic and civil. We’re adults here…Causing threads to close is not acceptable and if continuous will lead to being permanently banned.
It’s a hot topic but that doesn’t mean we can’t have a really interesting conversation. A conversation that could add a lot of value to the community. Let’s aim for that instead of a dead-end thread.
I'm waiting for them to repeal gravity so I can just be done with cars altogether
Ther will be a long delay - or it may never happen - while all the challenges go through the courts. Part of the issue is that this does not just affect greenhouse gases, but it also affects human/animal and vegetation health, as well as just plain smog. Remember the LA basin before the restrictions came in?
Yes.
Keep it On Topic, Civil and about Mazda/s or this thread will be closed. 
