CX-5 Sales continue to set records

7eregrine said:
Yea, everyone knows SUV sales are soaring at the expense of cars. It's been mentioned a few times in this thread. It shouldn't detract from Mazdas success selling CX-5s. People could be buying Hyundai's instead.
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This. For Mazda...a niche brand that is much smaller than a lot of these other automakers, these are good numbers.

It's really no news to anyone that in the US, SUVs have been killing cars for years.

Honestly yrwei, gotta put these in perspective.
 
Always the negative Nancy I see.

So Mazda continues to grow, but you are worried about them because others grow too?
 
ColoradoDriver said:
This. For Mazda...a niche brand that is much smaller than a lot of these other automakers, these are good numbers.

It's really no news to anyone that in the US, SUVs have been killing cars for years.

Honestly yrwei, gotta put these in perspective.
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I'm worried about the future of a small automaker. People are happy to see sales increase on CX-5 but everybody else has increased in big numbers too in the same segament! Look at new engine and transmission used in Toyota Camry and RAV4, nothing fancy like turbo、CVT、(useless) cylinder deactivation, or even SkyActiv-X, yet they achieved the goal of offering much more power AND much better fuel economy!
 
yrwei52 said:
Look at new engine and transmission used in Toyota Camry and RAV4, nothing fancy like turbo、CVT、(useless) cylinder deactivation, or even SkyActiv-X, yet they achieved the goal of offering much more power AND much better fuel economy!
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And rightly so -- The RAV4 desperately needed it. In Car & Driver's recent test, the 2018 model only managed 25 mpg at a steady 75 mph cruise while the 2017 CX-5 (without cylinder deactivation) managed 32 mpg in the same test.

Toyota has achieved improvements partly through using the same 13:1 compression ratio that Skyactiv motors have had for years.
 
Mazda_TX said:
And rightly so -- The RAV4 desperately needed it. In Car & Driver's recent test, it only managed 25 mpg at a steady 75 mph cruise while the 2017 CX-5 (without cylinder deactivation) managed 32 mpg in the same test.

Toyota has achieved improvements partly through using the same 13:1 compression ratio that Skyactiv motors have had for years.
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They also probably got some of that tech from Mazda from their new partnership.
 
m8te said:
The Mitsubishi is in the small SUV segment whereas CX-5 is midsize SUV. The Mitsi as they call it here is seen as the cheap and nasty product selling on price alone.

CX-5 will still be top for the year always consistently in the top 2 in its segment. Rogue and Tucson will get the odd bumper month then disappear out of the top 3 altogether. Consistency wins out.
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(iagree)
 
Mazda_TX said:
And rightly so -- The RAV4 desperately needed it. In Car & Driver's recent test, the 2018 model only managed 25 mpg at a steady 75 mph cruise while the 2017 CX-5 (without cylinder deactivation) managed 32 mpg in the same test.

Toyota has achieved improvements partly through using the same 13:1 compression ratio that Skyactiv motors have had for years.
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So for the same 2.5L 13:1 high-compression naturally aspirated engines, Toyota has managed to get 203~206 hp meanwhile Mazda gets only 187 hp? (uhm)

Then when you look at the EPA fuel economy estimates between Mazda6 and Camry both with 2.5L 13:1 high-compression engine, Mazda6 is way behind even added with problematic "cylinder dractivation"!
 
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ColoradoDriver said:
They also probably got some of that tech from Mazda from their new partnership.
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No, the new 2.5L Dynamic Force I4 D-4S Dual Injection with Dual VVT-i and ECO, Normal and Sport drive modes from Toyota is nothing like Mazda's SkyActiv-G 2.5L other than 13:1 compression ratio.

New Direct Shift-8AT 8-speed automatic transmission is also different from Mazda's SkyActiv-Drive 6-speed automatic.

And I'm also impressed with true off-road capabilities with Multi-Terrain Select and an Toyota-first, Dynamic Torque Vectoring All-Wheel Drive with "Rear Driveline Disconnect" AWD system on new RAV4.
 
He's impressed with Toyotas new tech but Mazdas is problematic. Wonder what his next car will be? [emoji12]
 
He must have already test drive a new RAV4 to be able to make the distinctions. Either that or excellent marketing on Toyota’s part.
 
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