Do You Love Your Mazda? Ditch That 0W-20 Oil!!!

[GJ-Molestor]

I use Pennzoil Platinum exclusively right now. Really want to get a hold of some Amsoil signature series though for a try. I used liqui moly on my BMW...essentially only German fluids for the Bimmer.

Ive been very pleased with shell rotella. Currently using LM for both my vehicles, the Mazda liked it a lot.

I think the best possible oil that holds up to aggressive use is probably Motul.

Anyways, Ive tried both liqui moly and shell rotella so far and both have held up very well to shearing past 5k Miles. The castrol 5w40 I was using in the past did not do as well.

 

[CX-5um]

I’ve been very pleased with shell rotella. Currently using LM for both my vehicles, the Mazda liked it a lot.

I think the best possible oil that holds up to aggressive use is probably Motul.

Anyways, I’ve tried both liqui moly and shell rotella so far and both have held up very well to shearing past 5k Miles. The castrol 5w40 I was using in the past did not do as well.

I'd like to try Pennzoil Platinum Ultra / Platunum Euro oil. Comes stock in Ferrari engines

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Pennzoil...81488_0&wl14=pennzoil platinum ultra &veh=sem

But at 1/3 the price and 80% of the performance and cleaning agents the regular Platinum works for me. Get it through local WM.

 

[GJ-Molestor]

I'd like to try Pennzoil Platinum Ultra / Platunum Euro oil. Comes stock in Ferrari engines

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Pennzoil...81488_0&wl14=pennzoil platinum ultra &veh=sem

But at 1/3 the price and 80% of the performance and cleaning agents the regular Platinum works for me. Get it through local WM.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Shell-Ro...trategy=TIC&visitor_id=XwnhXDCmbWZh2svGxx7KOY

this oil won't be beat for the price. better wear, shear protection and cold start resistance then oils costing twice as much.

 

[CX-5um]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Shell-Ro...trategy=TIC&visitor_id=XwnhXDCmbWZh2svGxx7KOY

this oil won't be beat for the price. better wear, shear protection and cold start resistance then oils costing twice as much.

Hmm interesting. May need to research that. Also too is that the PP line is also made by Shell. I also get my gas through Shell. Coincidence I guess.

 

[bigtex]

Ive been very pleased with shell rotella. Currently using LM for both my vehicles, the Mazda liked it a lot.

I think the best possible oil that holds up to aggressive use is probably Motul.

Anyways, Ive tried both liqui moly and shell rotella so far and both have held up very well to shearing past 5k Miles. The castrol 5w40 I was using in the past did not do as well.

I used Motul in my VW diesels at 10,000 mile oil change intervals and the few lab analysis' I had done showed it could go further, but I never did. Awesome stuff.

 

[yrwei52]

Hmm interesting. May need to research that. Also too is that the PP line is also made by Shell. I also get my gas through Shell. Coincidence I guess.

Did not aware Pennzoil now related to Shell. I used to use only Pennzoil for my vehicles, but haven't used any Pennzoil products for many years since I switched to Castrol. My 1998 Honda CR-V with 179,000 miles uses nothing but Castrol GTX 5W-30 oil. It burns less oil at this stage than my 2016 Mazda CX-5!

Yep I use only Shell gas on our CX-5 and 2000 BMW 528i. CR-V gets cheaper Costco gas.

 

[Buzzman12]

The only oils that will hold up to abuse like that is liqui moly, shell/ shell Rotella, Motul, AMS oil, redline, Pennzoil Platinum and that’s basically it. Many other oils will begin to shear after 6k and I’m talking about 5w30, 5w40 oils here let alone 0w...

Where are you pulling this crap from? The top of your head?
And how the hell do you measure or determine "shear"? Do you test your oil after 6K?
I mean, seriously, is this just some fact(s) that you've made up to try and impress us, or do you have some proof, facts, stats, to back up all this crap you are throwing at us?
I've been around a while, so I don't believe in anecdotal data, nor do I believe everything I read without some substantial back up and proof.

I've been running Mobil 1 for over 10 years in my cars, and neither one of them uses or leaks oil.
My 15 year old Pathfinder has 310,000 kms on it, and still runs like new (and no valve clatter).
I guess this means that Mobil 1 is the best oil out there, right?

BTW, One thing I do believe in is shorter oil change intervals.
I change my oil every 6K Kms. That's roughly every 4,000 miles.

 

[GJ-Molestor]

Where are you pulling this crap from? The top of your head?
And how the hell do you measure or determine "shear"? Do you test your oil after 6K?
I mean, seriously, is this just some fact(s) that you've made up to try and impress us, or do you have some proof, facts, stats, to back up all this crap you are throwing at us?
I've been around a while, so I don't believe in anecdotal data, nor do I believe everything I read without some substantial back up and proof.

I've been running Mobil 1 for over 10 years in my cars, and neither one of them uses or leaks oil.
My 15 year old Pathfinder has 310,000 kms on it, and still runs like new (and no valve clatter).
I guess this means that Mobil 1 is the best oil out there, right?

BTW, One thing I do believe in is shorter oil change intervals.
I change my oil every 6K Kms. That's roughly every 4,000 miles.

From testing everything myself and then having a fair number of people agreeing with me over at the BMW forum.

Why dont you stop believing the marketing bulls*** and do some real world testing instead? Dont go by what others say but actually learn yourself. Take Any of the brands I mentioned earlier in 5w30 weight and compare it to Mobil 1 using the same weight. Drive 5k miles and just notice the difference..

 

[Buzzman12]

From testing everything myself and then having a fair number of people agreeing with me over at the BMW forum.

Why don’t you stop believing the marketing bulls*** and do some real world testing instead? Don’t go by what others say but actually learn yourself. Take Any of the brands I mentioned earlier in 5w30 weight and compare it to Mobil 1 using the same weight. Drive 5k miles and just notice the difference..

So tell me, how did you conclude from my post that I believe in any marketing bulls***, or that I go by what others say?
Clearly, if I went blindly by what others say, then I'd follow your advice.
I also said quite clearly that I don't believe everything I read, nor do I believe in anecdotal bulls***.
I can draw my own conclusions by learning myself quite easily, thank you very much.

Oh, yes, the BMW forum (Break My Wallet forum). Ya, that's where I go to get all my data.

 

[Aznbagel]

From testing everything myself and then having a fair number of people agreeing with me over at the BMW forum.

Why don’t you stop believing the marketing bulls*** and do some real world testing instead? Don’t go by what others say but actually learn yourself. Take Any of the brands I mentioned earlier in 5w30 weight and compare it to Mobil 1 using the same weight. Drive 5k miles and just notice the difference..

I'd like to offer you a double blind oil change. So you can tell me based on engine sounds and driving what viscosity and brand I put in it.

From what I've gathered you are not doing anything remotely considered "testing," or you are not revealing your methods. Engine sounds aren't being measured, you haven't told us how you are measuring shear of comparable products.

Show us the data or go back to the BMW forum where they don't care about methodology.

 

[Monterra]

^^Seriously, so by 'testing everything myself' you ran all these good/bad/indifferent motor oils in the exact same conditions for the exact time/mileage then sent them to a lab had them analyzed and they confirmed your placebo effect of what the bmw fanboys knew all along? Right?

 

[banjos-n-beer]

People that expect someone else to Google proof of their claims are arrogant tools.

 

[Unobtanium]

From testing everything myself and then having a fair number of people agreeing with me over at the BMW forum.

Why don’t you stop believing the marketing bulls*** and do some real world testing instead? Don’t go by what others say but actually learn yourself. Take Any of the brands I mentioned earlier in 5w30 weight and compare it to Mobil 1 using the same weight. Drive 5k miles and just notice the difference..

Yet you ignore all of the UOA's I have posted, and corroborate your opinions with "just notice the difference..." and the like. Well I've run the Mazda Moly oil and PP and M1 AFE for 5k miles, in numerous vehicles (Mazda oil and Nissan oil are very similar, I ran the NIssan synthetic in my 370Z), and the differences, even in oil temp? Nada, really. ALso tried REdline in the Nissan.

The ONLY issue I ever saw with lubricants was when I ran Royal Purple in the diff of my WS.6 Trans Am. It destroyed several axles, and then it spun the pinion bearing inside its housing. When we pulled the diff down, the bearings were purple as was the pinion, indicating extreme heat. Lube was appropriate level within the diff. Could it have been a missed shift that caused a misalignment? Maybe. I won't rule it out, but it DID sour me on RP. that said...many people run RP without issue, and WS.6 LS1 cars are known for eating diffs, and the spider gears in the Torsen diff were fine...

 

[Chris_Top_Her]

I'm convinced. This seems like a good deal.

 

[Monterra]

Thread should be renamed..because placebo effect because that's all that's come across for me- awful lot of words not a lot (or any really) proof- hard proof that other oils truly suck are a you must be idiot to run that garbage it sucks so bad blahblahblah. Sooo many variables at play we might as well be arguing who makes the best session ipa- which btw is Lawson's finest liquids in VT

 

[Unobtanium]

Thread should be renamed..because placebo effect because that's all that's come across for me- awful lot of words not a lot (or any really) proof- hard proof that other oils truly suck are a you must be idiot to run that garbage it sucks so bad blahblahblah. Sooo many variables at play we might as well be arguing who makes the best session ipa- which btw is Lawson's finest liquids in VT

Dunning-Kruger, because Placebo...

 

[GJ-Molestor]

So tell me, how did you conclude from my post that I believe in any marketing bulls***, or that I go by what others say?
Clearly, if I went blindly by what others say, then I'd follow your advice.
I also said quite clearly that I don't believe everything I read, nor do I believe in anecdotal bulls***.
I can draw my own conclusions by learning myself quite easily, thank you very much.

Oh, yes, the BMW forum (Break My Wallet forum). Ya, that's where I go to get all my data.

Do you still havent decided to run your own tests and confirm yourself?

Not all bmws are unreliable. Quit with the generalizing. It depends on the model, but German cars are either hit or miss so you can end up coming across a very reliable model like I did, which has been 100% trouble free with 75k miles.

Besides, that has nothing to do with the fact that the BMW forums have actual enthusiasts which talk about driving related stuff rather then complain about no auto windows or the typical nonsense you see on the Mazda forums.

Bmws run hot, which shears the oil quicker then it would with a typical vehicle like Mazda. This means that it is even more important to do research and find out which oil is best.

I dont understand you guys, youre claiming thats my posts are anecdotal, when your claims that 0w20 Mobil 1 is good has even less assertions then the theories I have brought to the table.

Regardless of the fact that this post has created mixed reviews, it is clear that some of you have logic and notice that CAFE requirements and 0w20 have something to do with each other...

 

[bigtex]

All Day IPA, Founders.

 

[Chris_Top_Her]

Besides, that has nothing to do with the fact that the BMW forums have actual enthusiasts which talk about driving related stuff rather then complain about no auto windows or the typical nonsense you see on the Mazda forums.

Welp, can't argue with that for damn sure

 

[banjos-n-beer]

Damn Monterra- you talking about Spring Fever? Might be the best session IPA I've ever had. And I brew a pretty damn good one myself.