Well this time, looks like its for real guys

Turbo
Glow plugs
Other s*** I am probably ignorant of.

Did they even ever get them running correctly?
Guy was specifically referring to 13.00 every 10k blowing his maintenance budget.

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$650-$1,200. I guess it's a good thing it's not all that common. BUNCH OF CAR ENTHUSIASTS SHOULD KNOW TURBOS AREN'T FRAGILE. Acci-caps.
It happens, of course, but, good god, it's not nearly as common as some of you make it out to be.
 
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Yes, there is no way we would only get fundamental changes like that in Australia. They will be worldwide.

Re how the diesel goes in hot climates - no issues from me. Done lots of runs including towing 1400kg boat behind mine in summer here with no issues. Temps up to 38-40 C.

Mr brother is about to do a 3 week road trip up to north Queensland (hot), then going inland west (hotter) thru central Queensland, down south thru southwest of the state into western NSW.

It will be winter here by then, of couse, no-one who is sane would do such a trip in summer. Night time will be cold out west, down to maybe 4-5 deg C or lower, possibly some frost, but daytime will push up towards 30. I will let you know if any issues but not expecting any.

Ok cool. Good info to know. There's a lot of talk about snow and such in this forums but probably a more grueling test would be in hot desert environments. Just a notch below zombie Apocalypse conditions.
 
To put things into perspective the 2.5L CX9 has a turbo. Perhaps this should be used as a reference point for turbo reliability?

Totally agree :-)
Or use the fact that about 50% of all cars sold in Europe are turbo diesels and has been for the last 15-20 years.
And I've heard of no serious problem with these turbos, I've even owned a few my self.
Turbo chargers made today are very reliable, not at all like those made back in the 80s.
 
Totally agree :-)
Or use the fact that about 50% of all cars sold in Europe are turbo diesels and has been for the last 15-20 years.
And I've heard of no serious problem with these turbos, I've even owned a few my self.
Turbo chargers made today are very reliable, not at all like those made back in the 80s.

Once a very conservative company like Honda starts producing mainstream turbo 4 bangers you know technology to make turbos reliable has advanced.
 
$650-$1,200. I guess it's a good thing it's not all that common. BUNCH OF CAR ENTHUSIASTS SHOULD KNOW TURBOS AREN'T FRAGILE. Acci-caps.
It happens, of course, but, good god, it's not nearly as common as some of you make it out to be.

It's probably more than that. At least on the VW TDI, the cost is like $5K or so.
 
Owned Saabs. Moderator on a Saab board for years. A brand new turbo installed MIGHT be 2 grand. Might. At a dealer. Never seen anyone pay anywhere near 5 grand. How much is the turbo in a VW by itself? Apparently 2 grand? That's crazy sauce.

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How much is the turbo in a VW by itself? Apparently 2 grand? That's crazy sauce.

Ya, I was pretty shocked when I found that one out. It's supposedly a very labor-intensive process to swap it out too. I'd imagine the Mazda 2.2L isn't as challenging to work on and the parts cost less, but I also would not be surprised if it's closer to $5K than it is to $1K for a turbo replacement.
 
turbos going in a modern diesel is crazy talk, lol.

and, uk garages all have plastic gloves for the diesel pumps. They are dirtier than petrol pumps.
 
Saabs weren't considered cheap cars. A brand new turbo was $900-$1,200 for the part, $800-$1,000 in labor, at best. Rebuilt turbos were $400-$650.

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Saabs weren't considered cheap cars. A brand new turbo was $900-$1,200 for the part, $800-$1,000 in labor, at best. Rebuilt turbos were $400-$650.

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Couldn't you install a better turbo which is probably in the same price range?
 
Yea. Even a higher specced turbo wasn't much more.

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Never even seen adblue. I guess finding it would be the first inconvenience...

AdBlue is the VW/Audi brand name for ISO 22241-1 diesel exhaust fluid. You can get it at any VW or Audi dealer or order it online to save money. Other brands of ISO 22241-1 DEF such as Peak BlueDEF are available at Walmart and pretty much any auto parts store. In the VW * Audi TDIs, you top off the tank every 10,000 mile service when you're changing the oil and checking other fluids.

$13 every 10,000? I don't consider that expensive.$130 for 100K. That "blows your maintenance budget"?

His post was tongue-in-cheek.

Sometimes hard to tell with all of the troll posts in this thread.
 
Once a very conservative company like Honda starts producing mainstream turbo 4 bangers you know technology to make turbos reliable has advanced.

Oh...but not CVT transmissions...

So how do we decide what "new" technology to trust?

This forum is terrified of a CVT, and cites issues Honda had. But we now use Honda to validate a turbo in a production car? They dumped their last turbo 4 CUV motor for a V6...
 
AdBlue is the VW/Audi brand name for ISO 22241-1 diesel exhaust fluid. You can get it at any VW or Audi dealer or order it online to save money. Other brands of ISO 22241-1 DEF such as Peak BlueDEF are available at Walmart and pretty much any auto parts store. In the VW * Audi TDIs, you top off the tank every 10,000 mile service when you're changing the oil and checking other fluids.



His post was tongue-in-cheek.

Sometimes hard to tell with all of the troll posts in this thread.

Actually, I was mocking him.

He is just trolling, and I am no longer going to play. Added to ignore list.
 
Oh...but not CVT transmissions...

So how do we decide what "new" technology to trust?

This forum is terrified of a CVT, and cites issues Honda had. But we now use Honda to validate a turbo in a production car? They dumped their last turbo 4 CUV motor for a V6...

CVTs aside, I think that Honda went back to the drawing board and looked at VW's 1.8-2.0 turbo engines which powered entry level non-luxury cars as a reference point. I don't believe they currently use turbos in Acuras although I may be wrong.

VW and Toyota are consistently the #1 or 2 ranked automaker in global sales every year. VW features turbos all over their lineup. Rumor is Toyota will too such as for the Camry.
 
I missed that "well since Honda is using Turbos now, that must mean they are reliable". Wtf. Drink Honda Kool aid much? That made me throw up in my mouth a little.
Turbo charging has been around since the 60s. Porsche was making RELIABLE turbos in the 70s. Saab has been using reliable Turbos since the 80s.
Is this what the Asian enthusiasts are like? Almost makes me sad that I left the Europeans. Sorry, but Honda sucks. Someone had to say it.
Honda is LATE to the turbo party. Very very late. Toyota used turbos in the 90s and then got away from them.

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