Reviews Monday for 2017s?

[yrwei52]

MSRP on 2017 CX-5 Optional Packages

We still don't know who is right as Mazda hasn't formally announce the MSRP. My assumption is based on at no time Mazda has priced under $1,000 for any optional packages! $780 for Touring Preferred Equipment Package and $625 for Touring i-ActivSense Package? Even Grand Touring Premium Package for 2017 costs us $1,830 and 2016.5 GT i-ActivSense costs us $1,500!

As for the MSRP prices, as of now I will believe the press release from actual Mazda USA over your assumption.

Stopped by my Mazda dealer and met the sales manager who is a friend of mine. He pulled up the price information from his computer and showed me the MSRP for 2017 Mazda CX-5. For sure the MSRP for Touring Preferred Equipment Package is $1,535 and for Touring i-ActivSense Package is $945! The MSRP for Grand Touring Premium Package is $1,835. He said he'll receive the first 2017 CX-5 around April 15th.

$780 for Touring Preferred Equipment Package and $625 for Touring i-ActivSense Package? I guess it was a bubble burst too soon for you and Christmas doesn't come in March after all!

 

[m8te]

Stopped by my Mazda dealer and met the sales manager who is a friend of mine. He pulled up the price information from his computer and showed me the MSRP for 2017 Mazda CX-5. For sure the MSRP for Touring Preferred Equipment Package is $1,535 and for Touring i-ActivSense Package is $945! The MSRP for Grand Touring Premium Package is $1,835. He said he'll receive the first 2017 CX-5 around April 15th.

$780 for Touring Preferred Equipment Package and $625 for Touring i-ActivSense Package? I guess it was a bubble burst too soon for you and Christmas doesn't come in March after all!

Makes no diff to me, I don't live in the US. Even if going by your so called friend it's not actually $1000 more than what was published and released. Still not a bad value if compared to the CR-V for comparison sake is it or are still going to deny that? Or perhaps you will be happier to see it cost even more so as to be critical of Mazda again?

Anyhow I don't want to turn this into another CR-V thread, BTW is the CR-V that you seem to try to make a compelling case for a full import model like the CX-5 or is it built locally in the US of A?

 

[yrwei52]

Makes no diff to me, I don't live in the US. Even if going by your so called friend it's not actually $1000 more than what was published and released. Still not a bad value if compared to the CR-V for comparison sake is it or are still going to deny that? Or perhaps you will be happier to see it cost even more so as to be critical of Mazda again?

Anyhow I don't want to turn this into another CR-V thread, BTW is the CR-V that you seem to try to make a compelling case for a full import model like the CX-5 or is it built locally in the US of A?

Ha, did I mention anything related to CR-V recently? Or did you see my posts in another thread with CX-5 and CR-V comparison recently? No matter, with Honda SensingTM Suite (like Mazda's i-ActivSense)、Remote Engine Start、One-touch Front Power Wondows and Moonroof、4-way Lumbar Support、Apple CarPlay and Android Auto as well as many other standard features and good Honda reputation with excellent resale value, I still believe 2017 Honda EX is a better buy than 2017 Mazda CX-5 Touring for many avarage buyers who are only looking for features and value. Also remember you can only choose one Package between the two on CX-5 Touring, you can't get both. Which means you loose many features that are standard for CR-V EX. Yep, Honda CR-V's are built locally in East Liberty, Ohio、Greensburg, Indiana in the US of A; and Alliston, Ontario in Canada!

When you're in a position that friends and family are constantly seeking opinions on buying vehicles, you'll find if 2017 CX-5 has as many nice features as 2017 CR-V, it'd be so much easier to convince them getting a CX-5. Why can't Mazda adding all of those nice features like many competitors, or at least on par with you guys down under. Remember we have many nice features missing in our CX-5 comparing to your Australian version!

 

[boandlkramer]

Who has a 2016 CX-5 and is having buyer's remorse?

I go online and see what a beauty the new 2017 CX-5 is. I also see some pretty convenient features that the 2016s don't have. Then I go and drive the wife's 2016 CX-5 GT to work today and I think to myself, this is a perfectly fine car. Now if the 2017 models came with the 2.5T engine, then that's a different story.

I have a 2016; not so much buyers remorse, but more "man why didn't I just fully load it?!"

The HUD is what did it for me. My wife just wants heated seats(yes I know they were available, but my wife wanted to "save" and now she regrets it), so it all comes together


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[Mattyredsox]

I have a 2016; not so much buyers remorse, but more "man why didn't I just fully load it?!"

The HUD is what did it for me. My wife just wants heated seats(yes I know they were available, but my wife wanted to "save" and now she regrets it), so it all comes together


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Yeah, our new one is fully loaded. It added so little to the overall price. Counting the days until my 2017 diesel CX-5 Luxury edition with the HUD arrives! Yippee.

 

[yrwei52]

The HUD is what did it for me.

HUD is cool but there's drawback on HUD too. You'd better get zero-deductible windshield insurance for it.

Heads Up Display Windshield Replacement Cost (eeek!)

Interesting piece of trivia I thought you guys might appreciate. I had a rock hit my windshield...less than a dollar coin size dent.

Patching the spot was $90 at the dealer, but if it starts to spider crack a replacement windshield is $2100. This is because I have the Heads Up display and the entire glass is polarized.

Of course it's covered by insurance, but one might consider the replacement cost when choosing the heads up display.

 

[boandlkramer]

HUD is cool but there's drawback on HUD too. You'd better get zero-deductible windshield insurance for it.

Heads Up Display Windshield Replacement Cost (eeek!)

HUD reduces time looking away from the road. At autobahn speeds it's literally a lifesaver

There's a third party business segment that repairs chips/small cracks at zero cost to you. Why go to the dealer?

I never considered what happens if it's on the HUD portion of the windshield.

From what I can tell of my M4, there is no difference in the glass in this area though.


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[m8te]

Ha, did I mention anything related to CR-V recently? Or did you see my posts in another thread with CX-5 and CR-V comparison recently? No matter, with Honda SensingTM Suite (like Mazda's i-ActivSense)、Remote Engine Start、One-touch Front Power Wondows and Moonroof、4-way Lumbar Support、Apple CarPlay and Android Auto as well as many other standard features and good Honda reputation with excellent resale value, I still believe 2017 Honda EX is a better buy than 2017 Mazda CX-5 Touring for many avarage buyers who are only looking for features and value. Also remember you can only choose one Package between the two on CX-5 Touring, you can't get both. Which means you loose many features that are standard for CR-V EX. Yep, Honda CR-V's are built locally in East Liberty, Ohio、Greensburg, Indiana in the US of A; and Alliston, Ontario in Canada!

When you're in a position that friends and family are constantly seeking opinions on buying vehicles, you'll find if 2017 CX-5 has as many nice features as 2017 CR-V, it'd be so much easier to convince them getting a CX-5. Why can't Mazda adding all of those nice features like many competitors, or at least on par with you guys down under. Remember we have many nice features missing in our CX-5 comparing to your Australian version!

You're entitled to think what you want. There is not a huge disparity in price and features between the CX-5 and CR-V. As I said before, you're just counting the number of features however small they may be and not taking into consideration the value of each feature. The point I was trying to make in regards to the CR-V being built locally is it won't have to deal with import tariff and fees as the CX-5 does but on the downside build quality is arguably not going to be as good as Japan.

You're expecting the CX-5 to offer more for less so as to compete with the CR-V in sales in the US which is never going to happen. It's already well known than Mazda is going for a different market and they've said it themselves there are none too fuss about selling massive numbers as long as they are a hit globally and gain genuine fans of their product on an emotional level. If everyone buys on price alone, the world would be a boring place and everyone would be driving a Corolla. You're not taking into consideration the intangibles which you can't put a whole dollar value on eg. style, driving dynamics, premium feel, build quality etc.

If you feel it's easier for you to recommend a CR-V for example to friends and families by comparing features dollar for dollar then good for you that's if you have ownership experience with one. I still believe there are buyers out there that are smart enough to know what their subjective needs and criteria are to make a decision on what is the best buy for them whether it's a CX-5 or not. There is no right or wrong.

 

[m8te]

HUD is cool but there's drawback on HUD too. You'd better get zero-deductible windshield insurance for it.

Heads Up Display Windshield Replacement Cost (eeek!)

This is why you're seen as being a negative **** on this forum because you dismiss whatever technology Mazda now offers. Heck why don't we just get rid of all the high tech stuff since it's going to be so expensive to repair which also proves the point these are higher valued and more sophisticated tech than some small feature other manufacturers offer instead such as a glove box light. Maybe all manufacturers should go back to halogen headlights too since LEDs are going to be so expensiveto repair "IF" it breaks. Or is it only Mazda that should go backwards because only Mazda have issues!?

 

[yrwei52]

Hud

⋯ From what I can tell of my M4, there is no difference in the glass in this area though.

Yeah enjoy the HUD and just be sure to aware the special windshield can be expensive. The link I posted earlier is from Bimmerfest and

It has been confirmed that there is a special windshield for the HUD (someone in another thread had posted the part number). Whether it's polarized or not, it's different than the windshield for the cars without the HUD.

By all means though, replace yours with the cheapest F30 glass out there and let us know how it works out.

 

[boandlkramer]

Yeah enjoy the HUD and just be sure to aware the special windshield can be expensive. The link I posted earlier is from Bimmerfest and

Dunno, but I have windshield protection on my ins coverage. So it's really not much of a consideration.

Good info though. Thx


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[joe6864]

HUD is cool but there's drawback on HUD too. You'd better get zero-deductible windshield insurance for it.

Heads Up Display Windshield Replacement Cost (eeek!)

Stop guessing... you don't know if it's the same HUD technology. Please show evidence that the CX-5 window is polarized for HUD or keep your assumptions down.

Also, you know, most insurance covers windshield glass without rate penalty so even if you are true, there's no issue.

Sorry to burst your buyers-remorse, but get real.

 

[Ricsta]

Yeah enjoy the HUD and just be sure to aware the special windshield can be expensive. The link I posted earlier is from Bimmerfest and

yrwei52, you,ve been a member here for a while and have contributed many useful information to this forum. So I'm really surprised and disappointed with the recent constant, negative, unbalanced post on th CX-5. I know you recently bought a CRV so it's natural to make a comparison, but most member here have more than one vehicle in their household and I don't see them being disparaging as you have. Can you revert back to being the useful forum contributor that I recall?

 

[yrwei52]

Active Driving Display (HUD)

Dunno, but I have windshield protection on my ins coverage. So it's really not much of a consideration.
Good info though. Thx

Actually according to 2017 Mazda CX-5 Owner's Manual, there're two types of Active Driving Display (HUD): Windshield type and Auto Flip-up type. It doesn't say which one is for new CX-5. I was hoping it's Auto Flip-up type which uses regular windshield. But people say it's Windshield type like CX-9's. Then I brought up the drawback of HUD with special windshield is twofold: firstly some people were questioning why Grand Touring Premium Package with few features such as Memory seat、Power Passenger Seat、Active Driving Display、Heated Rear Seats & Steering Wheel、Windshield Wiper De-icer, is so expensive at $1,835? Now we know why. Secondly, many people don't know windshield type HUD requires special windshield which is pretty expensive. Once they know, they can take proper action and enjoy the HUD!

 

[joe6864]

Secondly, many people don't know windshield type HUD requires special windshield which is pretty expensive.

It's the windshield projected display on the new CX-5... and as stated several times, you don't know Mazda requires a special windshield for HUD (and even if it does, insurance covers this so no additional cost). Repeatedly ignoring these points conveniently labels you as a troll so that's handy.

 

[7eregrine]

In my 40's. I've owned...let's see....12-13 cars. Replaced windshields = 0.
But no, let's live in fear. That's like people (a few I know) buy cars with manual windows. "One less thing to break!!!" Yea, good for you. I've never had a power window repair either.

 

[Dr Kev]

When Honda makes one to have to get a heated steering wheel as an accessory only (at $433 + plus a control switch + labor), $1835 for everything in the GT touring package is quite a bargain!!

Actually according to 2017 Mazda CX-5 Owner's Manual, there're two types of Active Driving Display (HUD): Windshield type and Auto Flip-up type. It doesn't say which one is for new CX-5. I was hoping it's Auto Flip-up type which uses regular windshield. But people say it's Windshield type like CX-9's. Then I brought up the drawback of HUD with special windshield is twofold: firstly some people were questioning why Grand Touring Premium Package with few features such as Memory seat、Power Passenger Seat、Active Driving Display、Heated Rear Seats & Steering Wheel、Windshield Wiper De-icer, is so expensive at $1,835? Now we know why. Secondly, many people don't know windshield type HUD requires special windshield which is pretty expensive. Once they know, they can take proper action and enjoy the HUD!

 

[boandlkramer]

In my 40's. I've owned...let's see....12-13 cars. Replaced windshields = 0.
But no, let's live in fear. That's like people (a few I know) buy cars with manual windows. "One less thing to break!!!" Yea, good for you. I've never had a power window repair either.

That depends where you live. I've spent ~15 years in Germany altogether. Not a single windshield replaced. Inside the first 6 months of my time in Colorado, I replaced both cars' windshield. It's relative, and can be a legitimate concern.


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[yrwei52]

yrwei52, you,ve been a member here for a while and have contributed many useful information to this forum. So I'm really surprised and disappointed with the recent constant, negative, unbalanced post on th CX-5. I know you recently bought a CRV so it's natural to make a comparison, but most member here have more than one vehicle in their household and I don't see them being disparaging as you have. Can you revert back to being the useful forum contributor that I recall?

I'm not Mazda salesman and need to say only good words on new CX-5. I only post the facts from the best of my knowledge. Please point me out which post I was biased against CX-5 and not based on the fact! If you don't want face the truth and bury your head in the sand, that's fine with me. Yet if we want to increase the sales volume on CX-5, all the praises here won't help the Mazda.

I hope new CX-5 won't follow failed path of new CX-9, but like Nissan Rogue enjoying 44.2% annual sales increase in 2015! Even Mazda Motor Corp. CEO Masamichi Kogai also said he needs to do something of their very low retention rate which is hurting their sales in the US. Mazda's retention rate currently is at 37% whereas the industry average is at 49%! But I do feel low retention rate has something to do with quality and reliability, and based on experience with my CX-5 there're more rooms can be improving. Mazda knows their advantage on handling, but somehow they couldn't recognize the deficiencies of their products especially for US market which is the largest in the world. I can see 2017 Honda CR-V will be a very successful compact CUV in US market with too many nice features、Honda quality and resale value. Average customers want more features and good value when they make decision on buying vehicles. The sales figures on 2017 CR-V so far has proved my point with 21.1% increase in December、52.5% increase in January、and 26.3% increase in February year-over-year (YOY).

See, I did buy a Honda CR-V like you said, but unfortunately it's not recently but it's 19 years ago! So the rest half of your comment above is baseless and became irrelevant! In fact, our family is going to need a car within a few months and I do believe the 2017 CX-5 would be the one. But I am disappointed that Mazda still eliminated some nice features for US customers on new CX-5 but do available in other markets!

 

[boandlkramer]

It's anecdotal, but this 2017 will be our 3D CX-5 in a row.

Same salesman. He loves us!


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