Right but you can't compare what one we can do versus the other because they're in completely different classes. Yes, the purchaser can compare and contrast the features of each but at the end of the day, you can't compare them. Pickup will of course pull much harder, but it will also handle like crap compared to a cx5. And so on an so forth. But congrats to the OP.
So long CX5...
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Right but you can't compare what one we can do versus the other because they're in completely different classes. Yes, the purchaser can compare and contrast the features of each but at the end of the day, you can't compare them. Pickup will of course pull much harder, but it will also handle like crap compared to a cx5. And so on an so forth. But congrats to the OP.
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According to Diesel World about GMs 2.8L Duramax diesel:
"the engine uses a soft timing belt thats good for a 150,000-mile service interval. It was selected for packaging, lower noise production, and serviceability to -40 F."
Still a hassle as diesel engines on pickup normally rack up a lot of miles.
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According to Truck Trend, GM's 2.8L Duramax diesel:
"After spinning the turbine side of the turbo, exhaust travels into a close-mounted diesel oxidation catalyst (DOC), then into a selective catalytic reduction (SCR) catalyst before going through a diesel particulate filter (DPF), and finally out through a Venturi-cooled bazooka tailpipe like those on the HD trucks.
Theres no muffler, because the truck meets GMs guidelines for noise and tone, and it produces less backpressure with a straight pipe after the DPF."
So SCR does use Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF), urea!
It seems Mazda has to use SCR (DEF) to achieve US diesel emission standard, and reducing the oil dilution/oil raising problem found on many SCR-less diesels such as Mazda's SA-D and VW's TDI.
In fact, SA-D's specs looks really nice even compare to bigger and less fuel efficient GM Duramax diesel:
Duramax 2.8L Diesel: Max. Power: 181 hp @ 3,400 rpm
Max. torque: 369 lb-ft @ 2,000 rpm
SkyActiv-D 2.2L Diesel: Max. Power: 129 kW /175 PS / 173 hp @ 4,500 rpm
Max. torque: 420 Nm / 310 lb-ft @ 2,000 rpm
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I don't know anyone who would choose a CX-5 as a serious long distance tow vehicle. I have a F-150 dedicated for serious towing and it has much higher ratings and a much bigger engine. I don't use the truck as a daily driver (and that's a very good thing because it's no more suitable as a daily driver than the CX-5 is suitable for towing heavy loads long distances). CX-5 is suitable for towing a small boat or other smallish loads and is a lot more enjoyable to use on a daily basis.
Because faulting the CX5 for not towing 7,000 lbs + like a truck can is a poor comparison.
It's like saying one bought the 450HP Corvette instead of the CX5 because the Corvette had more power.
That's why professional car magazines test each vehicle in its OWN segment. CUVs are tested with other CUVs. They don't test a Mazda CX5 CUV vs a Dodge Ram 3500 Cummins diesel. It would be a stupid comparison.
The OP also compared seat comfort too, I guess that's not fair either - especially if a truck is more comfortable than a Grand Touring CUV.
The bottom line is that the OP was simply describing what he liked better about his truck, not making an objective comparison. I don't understand the "class comparison" issue anyhow. When I was shopping, mine had to have a manual transmission - that eliminated most other compact SUVs and introduced trucks and hatches. We all have different needs and cross-shop differently.
The bottom line is that the OP was simply describing what he liked better about his truck, not making an objective comparison. I don't understand the "class comparison" issue anyhow. When I was shopping, mine had to have a manual transmission - that eliminated most other compact SUVs and introduced trucks and hatches. We all have different needs and cross-shop differently.
That's true. I don't see a problem cross shopping though. If you have widely divergent needs the best solution is one of each. That way you won't find yourself stuck in a big lumbering tow vehicle for the 95% of the time when you're not towing.
It's unfortunate, but the financial reality is often that people are forced to buy only one vehicle and that vehicle must be capable of all necessary tasks. That's why America is full of young mothers driving huge, lumbering vehicles for their trips to the nail salon or to pick up some milk and eggs. Fortunately, most of them are not driving enthusiasts so they don't feel like they're missing much (unless of course their monthly fuel bill doesn't leave much left over at the end of the month to really enjoy life).
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What is up with some of you?? Unfair this and that, holy cow, refricken lacks already. This certainly wasn't intended as a heads up comparo test. I merely purchased a couple four wheelers, towed using the CX5 and decided it no longer suited my needs so I purchased the Diesel Colorado and shared my reasoning.
Yes I stated the seats of the Colorado are very comfortable, much more so than the CX5.
There are however features I miss from the CX5 the Colorado doesn't have. Like Mazdas Radar Cruise Control, handling, size, but sorry the seats aren't something I miss.
I love the CX5 CUV, so much so, I had been driving a CX5 since summer of 2013 (2014 Touring, then 2016 GT).
My intent wasn't to offend any of you as I've enjoyed this forum since 2013.
Yes I stated the seats of the Colorado are very comfortable, much more so than the CX5.
There are however features I miss from the CX5 the Colorado doesn't have. Like Mazdas Radar Cruise Control, handling, size, but sorry the seats aren't something I miss.
I love the CX5 CUV, so much so, I had been driving a CX5 since summer of 2013 (2014 Touring, then 2016 GT).
My intent wasn't to offend any of you as I've enjoyed this forum since 2013.
We are just discussing, no need to get offended. It's just internet chatter.
The Chevy truck does look cool. The wide fenders look great. I love the blue color
Does it have AWD and is it controlled automatically or do you have to switch it to 4WD?
What was the OTD price on it?
What does it get MPG on the highway?
Are the spotlights on the roof OEM or aftermarket?
The Chevy truck does look cool. The wide fenders look great. I love the blue color
Does it have AWD and is it controlled automatically or do you have to switch it to 4WD?
What was the OTD price on it?
What does it get MPG on the highway?
Are the spotlights on the roof OEM or aftermarket?
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Nice rig!!! It sounds like this one is tops on diesel MPG on pickups in NA right now.
7,700 lbs is more than enough for what I would need for towing.
7,700 lbs is more than enough for what I would need for towing.
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No offense taken...(drinks)
It is a 4WD with 2H, 4H, 4L, Auto and a rear differntial lock. Auto has the 2 front wheels engaged and ready when slippage of the rears occur.
OTD price... not cheap. I will say, I received $3300 off MSRP and $1000 over KBB Excellent Condition Trade in Value for my CX5.
Everything in photos is OEM. It all came with what's called the Trail Boss Package.
Yeah, I hope it was clear that I supported your comparison. I was mocking the unfair crowd. Nice truck. I actually saw one almost just like it at Lowes yesterday.
Please tell me that 2016 Colorado has a KEY FOB and NOT an actual key.
That annoys me to no end that GM is putting out keys in 2016. Just drove a 2015 Impala and it still had the stupid key. It's little things like that which gets me annoyed with GM. The other thing I didn't like on the 2015 Impala is that it still had halogen headlights and they were pretty atrocious at night compared to the 2016 CX5 LED lights which light up the road really nice and the white light is awesome. The Impala had a very yellowish light with low visibility. It's 2016, GM needs to get with the LED headlights already.
That and the Fischer Price cheap looking plastic interiors on GMs. It's driven me nuts since the 1980s, the 90's and 00's and even the 2010's. GM uses some cheap plastic outsourcing on the dash and door panels. Why it continues to do this after car mags rip on them for decades for it, boggles my mind. The 2015 Impala had the same funky cheap interior and the steering wheel controls looked like something out of the 1990's.
I will stop with my gripe against GM....
I must admit the 2016 Colorado Trail Boss is the only light duty truck out there with a diesel engine. So GM has the market share on that. Nobody else offers a light duty truck with a diesel engine.
The truck looks really cool, especially in that blue, with the roll bar and LED spotlights. Plus I read it comes with an EXHAUST BRAKE which is really cool to have when towing. Have you tried the exhaust brake?
Did you check out the 2016 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport 4x4?
That annoys me to no end that GM is putting out keys in 2016. Just drove a 2015 Impala and it still had the stupid key. It's little things like that which gets me annoyed with GM. The other thing I didn't like on the 2015 Impala is that it still had halogen headlights and they were pretty atrocious at night compared to the 2016 CX5 LED lights which light up the road really nice and the white light is awesome. The Impala had a very yellowish light with low visibility. It's 2016, GM needs to get with the LED headlights already.
That and the Fischer Price cheap looking plastic interiors on GMs. It's driven me nuts since the 1980s, the 90's and 00's and even the 2010's. GM uses some cheap plastic outsourcing on the dash and door panels. Why it continues to do this after car mags rip on them for decades for it, boggles my mind. The 2015 Impala had the same funky cheap interior and the steering wheel controls looked like something out of the 1990's.
I will stop with my gripe against GM....
I must admit the 2016 Colorado Trail Boss is the only light duty truck out there with a diesel engine. So GM has the market share on that. Nobody else offers a light duty truck with a diesel engine.
The truck looks really cool, especially in that blue, with the roll bar and LED spotlights. Plus I read it comes with an EXHAUST BRAKE which is really cool to have when towing. Have you tried the exhaust brake?
Did you check out the 2016 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport 4x4?
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Yep, all good.(lol2)
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Yep, I'm back to the ole ball and chain... an ignition key.
And yes, while towing yesterday I had the Exhaust Brake active and it worked great. I really noticed it while coasting downhill to a stop from 55 mph, sounded cool too, nothing like a big rig jake brake, but nonetheless pretty neat.
I looked at the Toyota TRD 4x4 too, but nothing in this class (except the dodge eco diesel, but that's a full size, and I didn't want that) can come close to the diesel Colorado 29 MPG highway rating. You pay a premium for a Diesel, hopefully I'll keep it long enough to recoop the initial cost.
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It's funny how once we advance in technology, how the little things begin to bug us. My bro has a ford focus for work that I had to move the other day. The key hole is kind of hidden and I was so annoyed I had to look for it to start it up. Also I have become so use to never taking my key out of my pocket ever. I unlock the car by the button on the handle and lock it the same way. Rear view camera is another one thats hard to go back from. It isn't needed by any means, but when your backing up in a different car, you really don't know the overall feel of the vehicle to back it up as easily as if it was your ow daily driver.
Rear view cameras will be mandated must haves by the NHTSA for all US made cars by 2017. It supposedly will save lives as backing up accidents and running over little kids and unseen people costs many lives per year.
Key FOBs are a really nice amenity. You would figure GM would go FOB on the 2016 since the debacle of hundreds of accidents and deaths due to the ignition key going into accessory mode and cars turning off while doing 65mph. A few pennies saved by GM caused the deaths of many of people. All car manufacturers are guilty of it but GM's recent debacle should have made key FOB's that much more standard on new cars.
How much urea do you have to put in and how much does the urea cost?
I know the new diesels don't even smell anymore. I hated the diesel exhaust smell of yesteryear. It was really obnoxious smelling. I bet the Colorado doesn't even have a smell. Plus you could use B20 Bio-Diesel if available.
The diesel engine will have aftermarket possibilities with boosting upgrades. It wouldn't surprise me to see 400 lb.ft with minor tunes and 500 lb.ft with major tunes.
Exhaust brakes are cool to have. They save your brakes and give you piece of mind going downhill.
I assume you paid around $43k plus tax, title and license for the options you have?
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