48k km/ 30k mi service...lubricating brakes?

[buyingconstant7]

Took moms CX-5 in to get it serviced at a very reputable dealership(oxymoron?). Total cost came out to $440. $125 was the rear cargo mat, and the rest was the service. It pretty much said they did an oil change, major inspection, tire rotation, and lubricated brake calipers and slider pins. Is a brake lube really necessary? I feel like I got ripped off but looking around, they all have this type of service for the 48k service.

 

[Unobtanium]

Took moms CX-5 in to get it serviced at a very reputable dealership(oxymoron?). Total cost came out to $440. $125 was the rear cargo mat, and the rest was the service. It pretty much said they did an oil change, major inspection, tire rotation, and lubricated brake calipers and slider pins. Is a brake lube really necessary? I feel like I got ripped off but looking around, they all have this type of service for the 48k service.

Yes. I had a friend who chose not to do this, and the slider pins did freeze up, his brakes wore un-even/prematurely, we could not un-sieze them, a 2 hour brake job turned into a multi-day affair, and I refused to ever do anyone's brakes but my own again.

 

[CX5_Pete]

Usually I lube the pins when I change brake pads, but after browsing around this wonderful forum, it seems the CX-5 has some seizing caliper pin issues. I plan on checking my pins when I rotate my tires.

 

[Unobtanium]

Usually I lube the pins when I change brake pads, but after browsing around this wonderful forum, it seems the CX-5 has some seizing caliper pin issues. I plan on checking my pins when I rotate my tires.

Oh, this was not a CX5 in my above post. Nissan Frontier.

 

[wlong01]

Took moms CX-5 in to get it serviced at a very reputable dealership(oxymoron?). Total cost came out to $440. $125 was the rear cargo mat, and the rest was the service. It pretty much said they did an oil change, major inspection, tire rotation, and lubricated brake calipers and slider pins. Is a brake lube really necessary? I feel like I got ripped off but looking around, they all have this type of service for the 48k service.

Yes and hopefully they were done prior to 48k service. It's good preventative maintenance. Honda does it every "B" service, around 15k intervals and my wife's brakes lasted 80k miles and she's hard on brakes. Really hard.

 

[paris1]

It's no doubt more critical in area where the winters are nasty and they use salt on the roads. Here in northern Calif it's rarely an issue.

 

[Ride92]

Does anyone have access to the service manual or a good how to on lubing the slide pins? I'm going to be putting my summer wheels on a few weeks and would like to check the slide pins at that time.

 

[Sekmor]

Does anyone have access to the service manual or a good how to on lubing the slide pins? .

I checked mine when I installed the winters and they were fine. I too will be putting the summers back on soon and plan to inspect the calipers and lube the pins. Just doing a quick google search, this was one of the first links with some good info, pictures, tools needed, etc. The link gets into changing pads but you can skip directly to the pins if that's all you're doing. Assuming you have worked on brakes before, it's a simple job just to check the pins.

http://www.paulstravelpictures.com/Mazda-CX-5-Rear-Disc-Brake-Pads-Replacement-Guide/

 

[ctbale]

use silicone grease

 

[buyingconstant7]

Yes and hopefully they were done prior to 48k service. It's good preventative maintenance. Honda does it every "B" service, around 15k intervals and my wife's brakes lasted 80k miles and she's hard on brakes. Really hard.

Really? I've owned German cars all my life, primarily VW's, and VW never even touched the brakes(unless they inspected them) whenever I brought my cars in for servicing. VW has a B service and they just replace filters and do a more in depth inspection and vehicle scan, nothing about lubing brakes. I guess Japanese cars are bad for these issues? And she bought her car used and the previous owner dealer maintained the car as well, so I'm guessing it has been done before. She notices her fuel economy is doing better from 7.6 l/100km, down to 7.2 l/100km. No change in driving style, weather or anything. Maybe they hadn't been done and had been dragging? On the other hand, the brake inspection revealed she had 8mm left of meat left, so probably not.

 

[Unobtanium]

Really? I've owned German cars all my life, primarily VW's, and VW never even touched the brakes(unless they inspected them) whenever I brought my cars in for servicing. VW has a B service and they just replace filters and do a more in depth inspection and vehicle scan, nothing about lubing brakes. I guess Japanese cars are bad for these issues? And she bought her car used and the previous owner dealer maintained the car as well, so I'm guessing it has been done before. She notices her fuel economy is doing better from 7.6 l/100km, down to 7.2 l/100km. No change in driving style, weather or anything. Maybe they hadn't been done and had been dragging? On the other hand, the brake inspection revealed she had 8mm left of meat left, so probably not.

I've only ever seen a frozen caliper pin once, and that was on my friend's Frontier. Japanese made, though, so it fits your point. Still, I'm just leaning more towards "rare" in general.

 

[timberstx]

I have 31,000 miles and the braking material is about as thick as the metal it is bonded to. So looks like I will be replacing within the next 5,000-10,000 miles.
I took the slider pins out. The grease amount seems to be just adequate. I cleaned them and used sil glyde. The bottom pin looked normal and gold shiny. However the top pin felt gritty when I slide it. When I took it out all the shine was gone.
I included a picture of the piston for anyone that will be buying a tool to rotate the piston back into the bore. I found one I like at amazon that is 1 1/4". Which might be just a bit too big.

 

[Kedis82ZE8]

I have had to keep the caliper pins lubed on my Nissan products as well. On that make it created additional drag that wore out pads earlier than expected. This may be a moot point for most but a cheap amount of caliper lube will moot the issue for the few.

 

[CX5_Pete]

I went ahead and used Paulstravelspicture guide to check my rear brakes. His guide says to remove the two 14mm bolts on the back of the caliper by turning clockwise. I found that they are normal bolts. It just seems like you are turning it clockwise to remove because the bolt is pointed to you. I don't know if he did this on purpose or just a mistake.
Anyway I have 31,000 miles and the braking material is about as thick as the metal it is bonded to. So looks like I will be replacing within the next 5,000-10,000 miles.
I took the slider pins out. The grease amount seems to be just adequate. I cleaned them and used sil glyde. The bottom pin looked normal and gold shiny. However the top pin felt gritty when I slide it. When I took it out all the shine was gone.
I included a picture of the piston for anyone that will be buying a tool to rotate the piston back into the bore. I found one I like at amazon that is 1 1/4". Which might be just a bit too big.

thank you for sharing. I've only owned mostly Hondas and Toyotas and changed the brake pads on many of those makes and have the adapters for most caliper pistons, but never a Mazda. It looks like I might have to buy another adapter for this one... :/