You can throw around all the facts you want(I know the other member was asking for them), but nothing is gonna change the fact that just about everyone with the Sport mode, really enjoys it. And that is all that matters. It gets me going quicker, it holds the gears longer, and keeps the vehicle in the power range longer. All of this equals to a more fun, enjoyable driving experience when we feel like messing around. I know it's hard for you to believe since well, you don't even have the mode, but it's a fun mode. I promise you.
Who likes/drives in SPORT mode?
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You can throw around all the facts you want(I know the other member was asking for them), but nothing is gonna change the fact that just about everyone with the Sport mode, really enjoys it. And that is all that matters. It gets me going quicker, it holds the gears longer, and keeps the vehicle in the power range longer. All of this equals to a more fun, enjoyable driving experience when we feel like messing around. I know it's hard for you to believe since well, you don't even have the mode, but it's a fun mode. I promise you.
This post says in the newest issue of car and driver for April that the 0-60 and 1/4 mile time is the same as the 2014 sheet you posted. http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?123853941-April-2016-Car-amp-Driver-Road-Test-Digest-info
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If you enjoy it, you're right, it's all that matters. I'm just saying you don't want to race me with it thinking it will help you a hill of beans at all.
Geeze, I didn't realize you totally missed my point in the other post until you threw the numbers in. Let me try to explain again.
In term of absolute numbers (as in racing/flooring the pedal), of course Sport mode is not any better than Normal mode, thus the numbers recorded as absolute performance are not different (and slightly worse in some cases).
However, unlike playing Mario Kart where the throttle is on/off, you don't drive around flooring the pedal all the time, right? In regular driving, the CX-5 dials down the available power to get better mpg. For those moments when you decide "screw fuel economy, just give me maximum power", that's what Sport mode is for.
So, we've been talking about different things. You kept thinking in term of absolute power, and you're right, there's no difference because that's the limit of the car. But for the rest of us who drive like a regular driver, the two modes are just options to choose between fuel economy and power.
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No it doesn't. It dials sensitivity of the pedal down. I have the physical capacity to overcome this insurmountable limitation with another few degrees of pedal deflection...
Unless a Mazda engineer (would love to listen to Dave Coleman) is willing to explain the details of Sport mode does, I'm sorry I don't have the expertise to either agree nor disagree with your statement.
Look, you are this forums biggest troll. That's undeniable. You argue just for argument sake. You ripped on the AWD only to put your foot in your mouth, over and over. People here know what you are all about. There's no denying that. You admitted before in your posts that you are a jerk in real life so here in cyberspace you can continue with that persona.
As far as the SPORT mode goes. It's more than pedal sensitivity. The programming done by Mazda Engineers with the SPORT mode involved numerous factors.
- Greatly improves throttle response
- Holds lower gears longer for better acceleration when doing spirited driving
- Sport mode engages cars g-sensor/yaw-sensor
- Changes transmission shift points
- Transmission shifts faster
- Keeps torque converter engaged at full stop (non sport mode disengages the converter)
- Downshifts the transmission to help engine braking (sport mode programming is more aggressive with downshifts/engine braking)
- Fuel curve is changed
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Link to your data?
Anyway, I read your post in Donald Trump's voice, and laughed my ass off.
"That's undeniable. People here know...there's no denying that" ROFL! Try it:
Yes, I am a raging dick to people like you in real life. You pretend that you and that mouse in your pocket are a crowd. If other people have an opinion they want to share...they will. They don't need Lbear Trump to tell their story, even if it's YYYUUUGGGEEE!!!!
Uno, Many of us have shared our opinion on Sport Mode and that we really enjoy it. You, the one without the mode is the only one here who continuously bashes the mode and everyone who enjoys it. Get over it. Stop trying to prove something to us that you can't even do because you don't have the mode.
Lets remember the title, "Who likes/drives in SPORT mode?". While of course everyone is included in every post here, and you're entitled to your opinion, we know your car isn't applicable to this post. So stop bringing down this thread.
I love the mode, and love using it. I really appreciate the extra oomph that it gives, and quicker pickup.
Lets remember the title, "Who likes/drives in SPORT mode?". While of course everyone is included in every post here, and you're entitled to your opinion, we know your car isn't applicable to this post. So stop bringing down this thread.
I love the mode, and love using it. I really appreciate the extra oomph that it gives, and quicker pickup.
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Hah! Fair enough. The title is about emotion, and as such, technical data, etc. really doesn't factor. It's a flaw of mine. If I see people enjoying something that I view as useless due to data, I tend to get riled over it, even though there really is zero to gain, and zero to give, by doing so.
I imagine you view delay windshield wipers as useless because you can achieve the exact same thing by bumping the wiper stalk periodically! (whistle)
Or maybe you should read the children's story about sour grapes.
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Sour grapes? Why would I have sour grapes?
As to delay windshield wipers...are you talking about rain-activated? No, I do actually miss those.
I have a 2016 with sport mode and I don't see the point unless you only have one arm. If I want to drive it "sporty" mode, I just shift it manually. Sport mode might be useful for autocrossing if you have only one arm or are afraid to take a hand off of the wheel. Other than that, I don't see it. I can't tell much if any difference in throttle sensitivity or shift speed and as others have mentioned, if you put your foot to the floor it's going to downshift to the lowest possible gear anyway. As to engine braking stopping the car faster, this is silly. The quickest way to stop the car is to stomp on the pedal until the abs cycles and hold it there. The engine is for accelerating. Engine braking is useful for changing the balance of a car while cornering, not for stopping.
No. I'm talking about delay wipers.
They must be useless to you because manual wipers can achieve the same thing (as long as you know to bump the wiper stalk periodically).
I found this thread interesting in that more often than not, the consensus on the forum is that manual transmissions are out of place in a crossover or SUV, and best left to a "driver's car" or other less utilitarian vehicle.
That said, this is a whole thread discussing Sport Mode, of which performance-oriented shifting and manumatic mode are a big part. Between that, and the often touted, driving dynamics that many rave about, is the manual so out-of-place here? It sounds as if many actually enjoy driving the vehicle.
That said, this is a whole thread discussing Sport Mode, of which performance-oriented shifting and manumatic mode are a big part. Between that, and the often touted, driving dynamics that many rave about, is the manual so out-of-place here? It sounds as if many actually enjoy driving the vehicle.
Before we dive into that discussion, can you clarify if we want to focus on the real manual transmission (stick shift), or is it about the -/+ "manual" on the automatic? I found the -/+ on automatic doesn't seem to help with performance driving as it has a significant delay after input, and shifting the stick back and forth like playing a video game doesn't seem to be a pleasure (and thus, many are installing paddle shifters).
Right, this thread is about the automatic with Sport mode, not the manual. I didn't intend to hijack the thread, but I found it interesting that so many cared about this feature when otherwise not wanting to bother with shifting. Carry on.
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A little different, considering your foot is on the gas pedal when accelerating, and your hand is NOT on the wiper stalk while driving normally...
Almost like saying "Since you don't see the value in good gloves for a jogger, why not have crappy shoes?" It makes no sense.
The truth of the matter is, an automatic actually woks better in many situations. I learned to drive with manuals and have owned/driven many since. But there are many things that a good auto is simply better at. Yes, automatics weigh a bit more, cost more to purchase and often have higher long-term ownership costs but they are superior in many situations. I don't view having excellent manual shifting skills as any kind of badge of honor that causes me to thumb my nose at automatics anymore (now that they are so good). But I did hate the old 3-4 speed slushboxes that were so ubiquitous on domestic vehicles. Manuals are better than ever too.
