Snow water/methanol injection

you use the aem extension harness instead of cutting your factory wires. you plug your ecu into the extension harness. and tap into the extension harness wires for the split second. so your factory wires stay safe and away from harm. plus itll be a lot easier to remove the ssafc if your ever decide to sell it or w.e
 
by saying plugging the ECU into the extension harness you do mean plugging the factory harness into the extension and the extension to the ems correct?
 
No the extension harness goes between the factory ECU connector and the ECU, then you splice your EMS or AFC wiring into the extension harness instead of the stock wiring.
 
ok got it. sorry its been a long day... so i would really like to have a full standalone- as would most people. but for a build on a msp would it really be worth it since our power/ options are slightly limited and im not planning on making it a race car. somewhere around 300-400whp would be max for what i'd need a fwd car for. or should i just stick to a afc or aftc? the adjustment of timing would really be a nice thing in my opinion but please share your own opinions and why. trying to learn everything i can about options, reliability for street daily driver, compatability, difficulty level, etc etc.
 
ok got it. sorry its been a long day... so i would really like to have a full standalone- as would most people. but for a build on a msp would it really be worth it since our power/ options are slightly limited and im not planning on making it a race car. somewhere around 300-400whp would be max for what i'd need a fwd car for. or should i just stick to a afc or aftc? the adjustment of timing would really be a nice thing in my opinion but please share your own opinions and why. trying to learn everything i can about options, reliability for street daily driver, compatability, difficulty level, etc etc.

Haltech is actually very simple to wire specially with the new firmware it is able to read the stock 36-1+3 trigger/home signal. No modification needed.
I used deusch connectors and that made the install very easy and it'll take me a second to switch all the wiring back to the stock ecu. For emission and what not.

With the systems like ssafc it modifies the stock signal to manipulate the stock ecu, this really limits the your ability to tune as you can only mod the signal so much before the stock ecu starts to throw a code and wont allow for any more tuning adjustments.
 
so a haltech sprint 500? or 1000? remember im not making it a race car. what i would really like is a built bottom end. mild ported/polished. 626 or 505 intake mani. steedspeed turbo mani with gt2860rs or comparable. weter/ meth injection, possibly e85. im sure a few small things i missed but you understand the idea. do you think i'd really need a 1000? or is a 500 suffecient?
 
Yes i truly believe you will need a stand alone especially if you are trying to run meth injection and or e85.

I got sprint 500 on mine and its my dayly, I run 750cc injectors with out any issue. You'll have to do some research on your own and see it the 500 meets all your needs. You can tune the maps for what ever you want. For my needs 500 is enough the only thing it lacks for me is closed loop idle control but open loop has been working fine, it just took me a while to dial it in.
 
basically on open loop haltech only gives you a graph based on coolant temperature to set the duty cycle for idle control valve.
On open loop haltech will determine how much the valve is open solely based on the coolant temperature. It doesn't actually care what the engine is doing. It doesn't correct if its the engine is idling too low or too high.

The main issue with it is that the load on the engine isn't constant, you have power steering, ac, fans, also head lights, blower motor, and wiper blades that you only use depending on the weather and time of day, all of these things changes the amount of load on the engine. At idle the engine makes like no torque so even though these are relatively small loads they do effect the engine at idle. Also you have environmental changes that will mess with the idle speed.
So lets say you set your idle speed at 700rpm during a nice day. Lets say you go out for a drive later and you have the lights on and now its cooler so you turn on the heat and it idles a little bit lower but no worries. After driving for a bit you come to stop, you go turn the steering wheel and at same time your fans kick on, the engine drops in rpm and dies. This type of thing happened to me a few times.
It took me some time of trial and error to get it to idle reliably without being too high. My idle is at 1,100-1,200 and that seams to be enough to compensate for those things.

An option with the 500 is you can use "generic duty" option instead if "BAC" on the haltech for idle control it gives you an extra parameter to adjust by. If you set that up right you can probably get better results. But i use that for boost control so i haven't tried it.
 
I don't think I would use the word 'Simple' to describe installing and tuning a Haltech in a Protege.
 

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