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My buddy's R32
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shaundizzle
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This is true, i've got a friend in AZ with a 600+whp TT R32, and it murders cars, and is a daily driver. Here's some shots from last year of it...
Give me a break, the VR6 is a way better engine that MS3's platform, and the power gains on a boosted R32 are a bit more bulkier than MS. I'd much rather own an R32 over any MS out there... 240hp AWD 6-speed in a hatch? Honestly, it has to be the better car, and being the last model VW to come equipped the almighty VR6, i'd be more than stoked to own it. Not to mention with an exhaust w/ no cats - it sounds amazing. As for the TT vs. SC, the power is greater with the TT's, and as for SC'ing an R32... i've seen good results with them, but the TT's pull better numbers overall. R32's own MS's.
shaundizzle
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Yeah dude, the newest model is garbage - they look like an egg and looks way too close to a Civic Si - which is an equal amount of garbage(evil)
But i'm tossing up the idea of either getting a 2003 R32, or a 2002 WRX, i'd rather not go with VW considering they are a bit more to maitnence, plus I have always wanted a 2-door hatch, but then again you just can't go wrong with a Subaru in Alaska - it's by far the best car for the elements, and I love the bug-eyed Rex's with STi projectors - SO clean.
Thanks for sharing I guess but nobody was really asking what you would want out of your dream VW. I was merely stating that I was kinda surprised that even a lightly SC'd R32 isn't really any faster than an almost bone stock MS3, as per the OP. Which goes to show what a pig the R32s are stock. Not to mention the fact that it costs quite a bit more than a MS3 and the electrics will most likely cause any owner to go insane after 4 years of ownership.
So if you honestly ask me, no, the R32 is not the better car because it'll probably be just as unreliable as any other VW/Audi I've ridden or driven. Oops, I forgot, nobody was asking for my opinion but there you have it.
BTW, he bought his R32 brand new in 2004 for the same price as an MS3 similarly optioned. 27k.
No, his car stock isn't as fast as a stock MS3. His car does seem to have much better build quality and it rides nicer. He hasn't had a problem in his almost 5 years of ownership and I haven't had an issue (other than a few teething pains in late 06) on my car.
No, his car stock isn't as fast as a stock MS3. His car does seem to have much better build quality and it rides nicer. He hasn't had a problem in his almost 5 years of ownership and I haven't had an issue (other than a few teething pains in late 06) on my car.
Don't get me wrong, I think VW/Audis are excellent cars when they're running properly. Their build quality and overall performance is very good for the price. My own experiences with VWs and Audis have been lackluster - nothing wrong with their performance, build quality, etc. but all 3 have broken down at some point with a costly repair pretty much as soon as the warranty ran out. Now you can call bad luck but let me put it this way. My neighbor is a younger guy and loves his VW Golfs (previous gens, has 2 of them) and is a service writer at a local VW dealership and even he admits he would never recommend a VW to a friend due to their suspect reliability. Now that's saying something.
Almost all of my previous cars are VW. I've owned (or still own) everything from a type 1, to A1-A4 chassis. I've even had an Audi. I only started having problems when the A2 went to Digi II and with my 1.8t Gti. Build quality it awesome. Sensor quality is le poo. (I never had the sludge issue that the other 1.8Ts had)
Awesome cars if you have some sort of mechanical ability. Sensors for those are cheap now because they mow through so many of them. It just got tiresome. I traded my GTI in on the MS3. From the performance stand point, I totally made out. In the overall fit, finish, interior, and ride quality, not so much.
Awesome cars if you have some sort of mechanical ability. Sensors for those are cheap now because they mow through so many of them. It just got tiresome. I traded my GTI in on the MS3. From the performance stand point, I totally made out. In the overall fit, finish, interior, and ride quality, not so much.
AllLostThings
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it upsets me that "r32" has come to be associated with those, instead of these:
otherwise, nice car.
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shaundizzle
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What's your deal with somebody giving their opinion on an open forum? Thats retarded, seems like your taking things a bit too personal, all I was saying is from my experience. I don't think you should hold much against me for merely shedding my thoughts on what i'd love to own, it really shouldn't ruin your day man. I just find it quite annoying at the fact that people (like your awesome-self) choose to bash a good/decent ride just because of the hear/say. Especially a pocket rocket like the R32, and for being stock with 240hp w/ AWD and 6-speed, i'd say its a great buy. Though I understand the dispute between the SC/TT setup, it still isn't my point. I was just stating my opinion that I believe the R32 is a better buy than an MS3. So for the record: I'm sorry for spouting about my dream R32, didn't mean to hurt feelings.
Anyways, I too have owned a VW, a 2000 Jetta with a VR6, and though I had modded a lot of s***, had to keep up on all the maintenance issues; it was still a reliable/quick car. I had Neuspeed intake, header, exhaust, chip, high-comp. cams, bored over and stroked to a 2.9 w/ all new internals, throttle body, and a short shifter... and with a professional tune; it ran like a ******* champion. I had a good time with that car, and always turned heads, it was clean and done well. VR6's own.
If you can support the costs of owning a German engineered vehicle, its gonna be just fine. I find it hilarious these days when I see friends or people in the same vehicle who's VW's are running like s***, or they put excessive bolt-ons onto a a vehicle with check engine lights on and such. If you can't keep your car running right, but you choose to invest on go-fast parts, your an idiot.
When it comes to comfort, i'd say GTI's have that, Jetta's on the other hand; don't have anything inside the vehicle that make it a nice ride, even the back seat sucks - I felt bad driving friends, it's like sitting against a leather board. Passat's have way nicer interiors, but are made for more comfort/slight luxary. That's another reason I want an R32, they have Recaro seats, and just like the GLI's, the interior is more plush than the average GTI.
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No chris dell has a TC R32 that was nasty it had 500+whp. He is taking it back to stock to fix up a s4 now.
shaundizzle
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They are buck-nasty with a turbo, they sound insane - just like SRT4's with their rumbling exhaust note, only with the VW you get that euro-tuned sound, almost like a cheap Ferrari sound haha. You got any pics of your buddy's R32?
shaundizzle
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Damnit! Of course its a website i'm blocked from using - I have a state job so i'm blocked from getting on sites like youtube, myspace, facebook, and anything of the sort. Luckily all forums and websites alike I can get on. Anyways - pics please! haha
None. I would never have an issue with someone spouting their opinions, I do it all the time. You're certainly entitled to speak your mind but when you make stupid one-liners and declare that "R32s own MS's" without ever having owned EITHER it kinda makes you look juvenile to say the least (my apologies if you have owned both and have firsthand ownership experience).
I don't recall bashing anything other than stating facts (up here in Canada, R32s were definitely more expensive than MS3s). I'm pretty objective and even give praise but suspect reliability is something I can't ignore when I only have one car at my disposal. Like I already said, I personally feel that VW/Audis are really good cars when they run well. Unfortunately, it seems that they tend to have quite a few more problems than most other imports.
