SocialStealth
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- 2002 Mazda Protege ES, 120k miles
Go read reviews on the proxes4 before you buy.
Are they bad or good?(uhm)
Go read reviews on the proxes4 before you buy.
I bought Bridgestone Potenza 019 Grids and love them. They are not as good as the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3s that were taken off, but they are defiantly worth the cost. Entry speeds in on/off ramp corners is barely noticeable (225% vs. the recommended caution speed is what I have tested) and they are quiet on the road. That means if the caution sign says 50 km/hr, I'd do it at 112.5km/hr. The F1 GS-D3s were awesome but very expensive at almost $300 CDN/tire including tax. I got the grids for less than $700 installed.
I punished the Goodyear's to no avail, I never had the tires beg for forgiveness even with less than 10% tread left (keep in mind that the Bridgestone's are new so they may/will dissolve performance over time). The new 'stones are 195/55/16 vs. the F1's 205/50/16.
I haven't tried the other tires you mentioned, but the 'stones are definitely worth the $$ IMO.
No, I just have too much free time at work... I don't have 10% of the knowledge a lot of the guys on here have.
But, I have Toyo Proxes4 on my Protege. Tried out Kuhmo Ecsta ASX's as my last tire and was completely unsatisfied with them. They were fine (nothing special) on dry pavement, but they were s*** in the rain. They would squeal a little even when not taking corners fast AT ALL. Just didn't like them... The Toyo's on the other hand, unless its like hurricane conditions I really don't notice a huge drop off in traction and grip. Braking grip especially is really good witht he Proxes4's wet and dry. Only pluses the Kuhmos have in their favor is the ASX's are like $5 cheaper per tire (the AST's are like $10 cheaper per tire) and they have a slightly higher treadwear rating which proably equates to less than 5k miles total on the life of the tires. (thats a complete guess haha) But performance wise, the Proxes4's blow them out of the water.
So that's my .02
I'm running these too. Haven't had anything but good in all areas. First set I ran lasted about 40k & 2 were still good enough to keep for throw down spare road hazard bkups. They aren't the quietest but other than that I really like them. They are nice balance of performance/longevity/price. Got 4 to the porch for 210.00 brand new. Have run sumitomos & wan li's also. Sumitomos were nice until lowering the car, they were 205/45/17s & they rubbed a bit. The wan li's were straight up track tires, stuck like chuck but uncomfortable for daily commuting & low treadwear rating. Got a stack of fresh Nexens to go on after the current set gives up. Seems it'll be awhile but that's OK. And here we are pushin 90k.........I have the Nexen N3000 right now. According to my experience, they aren't that good in the rain. I need to rotate them however, but I'm also looking for some good quality, cheap priced tires.
I'm running these too. Haven't had anything but good in all areas. First set I ran lasted about 40k & 2 were still good enough to keep for throw down spare road hazard bkups. They aren't the quietest but other than that I really like them. They are nice balance of performance/longevity/price. Got 4 to the porch for 210.00 brand new. Have run sumitomos & wan li's also. Sumitomos were nice until lowering the car, they were 205/45/17s & they rubbed a bit. The wan li's were straight up track tires, stuck like chuck but uncomfortable for daily commuting & low treadwear rating. Got a stack of fresh Nexens to go on after the current set gives up. Seems it'll be awhile but that's OK. And here we are pushin 90k.........
Yeah, I rotate them every 5k with oil changes. Have had good action even pretty worn past 30k in heavy rains. They wore very evenly. Never been near hydroplaning even without timid driving habits. I have sport auto so initial takeoff spin less likely I suppose. I think they are under the name Lexani now. It's just the company who was making them now is putting their name on them from what I found in my search for extra sets. Lexani N3000...IIRCOther than the rain factor, I can't really complain about the Nexen's. They came with the car when I bought it from the dealer. They haven't been rotated either so maybe that's why I'm not getting much traction in the rain. I might buy another set of these.
Also something of importance... Tread wear is not consistant car to car due to many factors. Alignments' quality can vary from shop to shop. I know that Tire discounters has given me a couple bad alignments before, and I will not be back at that location ever again. That and if you run with any type of negative camber your tires will perform much better and grip better but at the cost of your treadwear. Underinflated tires will also decrease your gas mileage and also wear unevenly causing them to lose tread more quickly. Also, make sure they are rotated every 5k.
Good points, The proxies I had wore evenly but just didnt last upro the 40 or 50k warrenty on them. Plus the tires were rotated every 3k. Its just easier to rotate them every oil change.
Yeah, the N3000's I'm runnin have 340 treadwear & pretty much after 30k you should start thinkin about the next set. I squoze 35k from the last set but that's just because I had a fresh stack sittin in the garage & I wanted to see how far they'd go & still be of use. They were still great, just louder as the tread wore down.
I doodoo that...........Just run em til they're baldThen tell the ricers they're your racing slicks. (bike)
They're ok, but there are many complaints about longevity and softness, like a marshmallow. Not performance-oriented tires at all. Same complaint for their summer tires, too soft for most people.