Cp-e Xcel Nano install and review w/ pics n vid

[desperado-c]

anyone of this forum have dynochart posted? i'm curious where power is in the powerband or if there is loss down low. btw stock baseline seems wrong. 210 whp and 220wtq? aem cai gave 60+ extra torque? it's either filter was super dirty or engine super heat soaked.

Good point! BS torque gain of 294.8-223.6=71.2 ft-lbs (24.15%) FTL. Absurd. But, hey, you don't get a Rolex w/o knowing how to make people feel like they're getting their money's worth . . . and then some. They showed a nice, clean stock filter, but maybe if we do a frame-by-frame analysis, we'll see where he blocked off the stock box's intake nozzle with a rag or something.

Since CP-e's showing a gain of about 21 ft-lbs (250.9-229.7=21.2, or 7.25% and a very nice gain), they just must not know what they're doing. Funny thing also worth noting, since hp is function of torque x RPMs: it took a purported 70 ft-lb gain to produce the purported 28 hp gain with the AEM compared to a 20 ft-lb gain to produce a 16 hp gain with the CP-e. This seems to suggest the real gain for the AEM must have substantially less than CP-e's 16 hp.

Hey, FreeFly, no missing a gain of 70 ft-lbs on the ole butt dyno. Assuming you had similar gains, your butt must have torn a hole right through the seatback and had you hanging on to steering wheel by your finger nails!

 

[dandydaniel]

okay so i'm trying to install my nano right now. but how the hell are you supposed to loosen the clamp on the turbo inlet portion of the stock intake? there is literally 1/2" of space between the bolt and the battery box....

 

[desperado-c]

okay so i'm trying to install my nano right now. but how the hell are you supposed to loosen the clamp on the turbo inlet portion of the stock intake? there is literally 1/2" of space between the bolt and the battery box....

I used a box end wrench, 10mm I think.

 

[dandydaniel]

Finished installing the Nano and took her out for a really quick spin. Love the fact that I can hear the suction. The bad part is that I hear a squeeking/creaking noise from the front passenger side of my car after I installed it. I don't know if its been there the entire time but I drove around with the radio off for the first time in a while and I was just hearing the squeek rattles and rolls inside my car. I really hate the fact that I paid $25k for a car with THIS many little noises. I mean a few I could understand but jesus...

 

[spdjnke]

yup i feel your pain, I'm dealing with alot of the stupid little quarks the MS3 has, but guess they really aren't made to be a "comfort" car so I can live with it for now.

 

[ElSpeedDiablo]

Finished installing the Nano and took her out for a really quick spin. Love the fact that I can hear the suction. The bad part is that I hear a squeeking/creaking noise from the front passenger side of my car after I installed it. I don't know if its been there the entire time but I drove around with the radio off for the first time in a while and I was just hearing the squeek rattles and rolls inside my car. I really hate the fact that I paid $25k for a car with THIS many little noises. I mean a few I could understand but jesus...

I guess I wasnt the only one then. Yeah after the install the passanger side has some new noises, I thought it was weird, but I can deal with it for the gain, the car sounds so nice now. Also Tom, I'm not realy on boost not anymore then when the intake wasnt installed. My mpg has gotten worse though, my light came on today at 190, it sucks maybe its cuz its winter and I'm using my heat more but idunno. I still love this thing and now with my new tires, the car is a blast! Nitto ftw!!!!

 

[spdjnke]

I guess I wasnt the only one then. Yeah after the install the passanger side has some new noises, I thought it was weird, but I can deal with it for the gain, the car sounds so nice now. Also Tom, I'm not realy on boost not anymore then when the intake wasnt installed. My mpg has gotten worse though, my light came on today at 190, it sucks maybe its cuz its winter and I'm using my heat more but idunno. I still love this thing and now with my new tires, the car is a blast! Nitto ftw!!!!

Ray,

Try resetting the ECU again, disconnect the battery and let it sit for no less then 10 min that way it has to "relearn" the new flow so it can adjust the a/f ratio, now keep in mind after you reset it, let it idle for 5 mins before you take it out, then over the next few days you will see atleast 2-3 mpg increase.

 

[dandydaniel]

Ray,

Try resetting the ECU again, disconnect the battery and let it sit for no less then 10 min that way it has to "relearn" the new flow so it can adjust the a/f ratio, now keep in mind after you reset it, let it idle for 5 mins before you take it out, then over the next few days you will see atleast 2-3 mpg increase.

should I do this as well? I thought just having the battery unplugged during installation would be enough to reset my ecu. I drained the charge left behind, hooked the battery back up, and then I immediately took her out for a short spin. should I do what you stated?

 

[Circle9]

anyone of this forum have dynochart posted? i'm curious where power is in the powerband or if there is loss down low. btw stock baseline seems wrong. 210 whp and 220wtq? aem cai gave 60+ extra torque? it's either filter was super dirty or engine super heat soaked.

210 whp/220 wtq does seem pathetic, so its losing over 50 hp and 60 tq to the wheels?

Besides, I don't see how a CAI would give it much more gains over a SRI considering that they had fans blowing on it with the hood open.

 

[ElSpeedDiablo]

Ray,

Try resetting the ECU again, disconnect the battery and let it sit for no less then 10 min that way it has to "relearn" the new flow so it can adjust the a/f ratio, now keep in mind after you reset it, let it idle for 5 mins before you take it out, then over the next few days you will see atleast 2-3 mpg increase.

Thanks man will do that today. After eating some good old turkey! Happy thanksgiving!

 

[spdjnke]

should I do this as well? I thought just having the battery unplugged during installation would be enough to reset my ecu. I drained the charge left behind, hooked the battery back up, and then I immediately took her out for a short spin. should I do what you stated?

Most of the time you want to give the ECU a chance to read all the perimeters with the new found air so it can readjust to a new "3D map" to compensate for the new A/F ratio that is needed. So you should always after the initial disconnect, let it idle afterwards for atleast 5 minutes before you take it out and open it up. Just my opinion.

 

[ElSpeedDiablo]

I might be selling my nano soon if anyone is interested, just got the cobb and will be installing this weekend and I will decide which of the two intakes I like better.

 

[skubidoobie]

I'm still waiting on my nano to come in.... Thinking I should have bought a CS full SRI/turbo inlet instead.

 

[boosted1]

I'm still waiting on my nano to come in.... Thinking I should have bought a CS full SRI/turbo inlet instead.

Wait until you get the Nano, you will love it. (dance)

 

[Speed3ForMe]

I just got one Saturday and I love it, but I've been reading about oiled and dry air filters and wanted to switch to a dry filter. I've also read that the Amsoil Dry Filter won't fit.

What other brands are available for purchase?

 

[Lee456]

I just got one Saturday and I love it, but I've been reading about oiled and dry air filters and wanted to switch to a dry filter. I've also read that the Amsoil Dry Filter won't fit.

What other brands are available for purchase?

In answer to your question, AEM dryflow 3.0" Dryflow Air Filter Short Neck 5" Element 21-203DK sounds like it would fit. For that matter the Amsoil EaAU3050 and EaAU3051 look like they should fit, too. They each have a 3" flange ID and are approximately the same height as the filter that comes on the Nano. The only difference between the two is the 50 is 5" diameter at the top and the 51 is 4".

I can confirm that the Amsoil EAAU4560 that people put on the Cobb SRI won't fit the Nano. The intake diameter is much bigger on the Cobb due to the air horn and the filter can be much longer with the Cobb because the body of the Cobb is shorter than the Nano. But I don't see why these other Amsoil filters wouldn't fit.

I was thinking about ordering the Amsoil EaAU3050 for my Nano at some point. Why do you think it wouldn't fit? I'd sure like to know before buying it.

 

[Speed3ForMe]

Okay, cool. I guess I wasn't searching through the threads and the amsoil site enough. I just saw a couple of threads where a couple of guys with the COBB SRI used EAAU4560 and how they said it wouldn't fit on the Nano. But I just went out to measure the filter and the EAAU3050 and EAAU3051 would fit. Thanks for the reply Lee.

 

[Lee456]

Okay, cool. I guess I wasn't searching through the threads and the amsoil site enough. I just saw a couple of threads where a couple of guys with the COBB SRI used EAAU4560 and how they said it wouldn't fit on the Nano. But I just went out to measure the filter and the EAAU3050 and EAAU3051 would fit. Thanks for the reply Lee.

I'm glad to hear that! I was afraid there was something I missed and I was close to ordering the EAAU3050. Thanks for getting back on this so quick.

 

[Qwik6]

AEM dryflow is what im running. Fits perfect.

 

[Lee456]

Since we're all talking about filters, I have a question. Does anyone know for sure which filter is best for getting dust out of the air? AEM Dryflow, Amsoil, or the aFe that CP-E offers with the Nano? I live in Phoenix and it is extremely dusty in the summer. I keep cars I like a long time and don't want to wear this one out prematurely due to poor filtration. The Nano or any of the good intakes lets in so much more air than the factory airbox that I'm not worried about giving up a little bit of flow if it means getting more dust out of the air. Any opinions on which filter would do that best on the Nano?