It sounds like you're justifying things when you say stuff like "It's going to be a sad day for a 08 Cobalt SS turbo owner when he / she runs into a MS3 with a few bolt-ons." and "Depends too much on who's driving them especially with the MS3 as it doesn't have mechanical shenanigans that do everything for you like the cobalt SS with the no lift shift and launch control." It sounds a bit fanboy.First off, I'm not trying to justify anything. Im happy with my purchase
No, I just think it's a car. A car that performs about as well as the MS3. And I've seen a number of threads on these forums where a car that performs about as well as the MS3 gets bashed a lot because it's not an MS3.I think you are so hell bent on claiming the Cobalt SS as such a better performing
No, it doesn't matter, so there is no reason for us to make excuses for our car.I have simply pointed out that the performance capabilities between the MS3 and the Cobalt SS are so minor that it really doesnt matter from that aspect.
We have no idea how well the SS will respond to mods, and it doesn't really matter anyway because you can throw enough money at any problem to make it go away. No reason to assume we mod better or worse, no reason to act like it matters.We all know by now what a difference a simple intake and exhaust modifications and do to a stock MS3 (Massive gains)
Fair.Im just pointing out some important aspects to consider before jumping on the new Cobalt ban wagon as some have already seemed to do.
Not flaming.Flame away!
It sounds like you're justifying things when you say stuff like "It's going to be a sad day for a 08 Cobalt SS turbo owner when he / she runs into a MS3 with a few bolt-ons." and "Depends too much on who's driving them especially with the MS3 as it doesn't have mechanical shenanigans that do everything for you like the cobalt SS with the no lift shift and launch control." It sounds a bit fanboy.No, I just think it's a car. A car that performs about as well as the MS3. And I've seen a number of threads on these forums where a car that performs about as well as the MS3 gets bashed a lot because it's not an MS3.No, it doesn't matter, so there is no reason for us to make excuses for our car.We have no idea how well the SS will respond to mods, and it doesn't really matter anyway because you can throw enough money at any problem to make it go away. No reason to assume we mod better or worse, no reason to act like it matters.Fair.Not flaming.
most of the ss cobalt guys don't talk s*** on the ms3 as much as ms3 guys talk s*** about all the other cars to include the cobalt. too much bitching going on here.
i hope that all of the ones who pick races with each other on the streets have flashing red and blue in their future...and if they want to b**** about it, so be it...but they can't dispute they weren't in the wrong
it's a car...be glad with your purchase...end
I'm certainly not bashing the car I just will not go as far to say it just "raised the bar" and all this other bs. Yes it performs well but it's not like it's running 5.0 (0-60) or 13.5 1/4's and 1.0 g's on the skid pad, etc.
Who was saying that they weren't glad with their purchase? Please explain and back up with facts.
And yes if you street race and a cop catches you you'll be trouble, what's new about that?
I actually didn't see too much s*** talking just ppl expressing their opinion. Is there a problem with that?
so if you think there's no problem with ppl expressing their opinions, why do you single out ones and ask them questions. seems like you only pick out the opinionated ones who go against your reasoning or beliefs
There appear to be a number of people disagreeing with you. Does this tell you anything?lol!
Mckraut has apparently made it his or her mission to disagree with practically ever thing I post. This is no surprise (stoned)