ETS 3.5" Top mount powder coated all black.

Andrade08

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MazdaSpeed3 2008 Cosmic Blue
Ah so friggin damn pretty:
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But.......is this a **REAL BAD** idea for a daily driver? I know the bare aluminum would shed heat better but how bad is it to powder the entire TMIC? I am not 100% on FMIC and looking at TMIC now. Figures........
Man that thing is killer looking!!
Matt
 
I talked with Protege Garage about this recently. They said the black coloring has no measurable effect and is merely cosmetic.
 
what is a difference between 3.5 core and 3.25?? more power??

OMG please do a search.

I talked with Protege Garage about this recently. They said the black coloring has no measurable effect and is merely cosmetic.

Please tell me the entire thing isnt powder coated and radiator flat black paint was used on the bar and fins themselves? if not that is the dumbest s*** i've ever seen!
 
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OMG please do a search.



Please tell me the entire thing isnt powder coated and radiator flat black paint was used on the bar and fins themselves? if not that is the dumbest s*** i've ever seen!

I am thinking the entire thing has been powder coated in the gloss black you see. I have not baught it because in my mind the powder is traping heat. I have been told no by many but..................I don't know.
 
man but black absorbs sooooo much more heat, if you tak a thermometer and place it on a whie sheetand 1 on a black sheet in the sun for 5 minutes in frezzing whether the thermo on the black sheet will be 90dgrees while the thermo on the white will be around the same! they didi it on the discovery channel to demonstrate the affects of melting ice on golabal warming.
 
actually now that i'm thinking... black absorbs all the "colors" of the sun and coverts them into heat energy where as white repels on the colors.. thats why its white. so since the black intercooler isnt being hit by light energy it would not absorb anymore heat!!! So it is just cosmetic...
 
I just stated it so you'd know, since I've seen you type it over and over again. If you didn't know, now you do. Is that bad? Your ability to spell correctly will allow you to convey your message to the forum better, since reading (and spelling) is fundamental.

Oh OK.......Very cool. Thanks for looking out for me. I thought you were just one of those poeple who pointed out other flaws. Sorry.........OOps no S on others. See I am learning so much!
 
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Interestingly, studies have shown (NASA and NASCAR apparently have more in common then thought before) that a black component has different heating properties, even without a direct source of heat (like the sun.)

It is crazy, but yes it is true.

But, by powdercoating metal you potentially change the thermal-transfer rate of it, so any gain from the color may be lost in the application. Anodizing the metal black would be a good work-around, since Anodizing doesn't add material that would cause a change in thermal rates.

I was refering to light energy being the only diff when it comes to color, from what I know that would be the only source of energy "light" that would make a diff in temp. Heat from the intake charge or from the engine shouldnt have and affect but maybe it does someother way..?
 
I'd prefer to help people instead of step on them. Hell, I'm a trainer/supporter for a complex software made for technicians in the auto field. Even though those guys sometimes have huge egos, they love me because I help them make more money.

LOL! OK..........I am 33 years old. I spell how I spell. I wanted to now if the powder coating material would soak in more heat. Not learn how to spell bought. If you wanted to "help" as you say you would PM people and tell them. Typing it in the open makes you look like your pointing at poeple and saying..."Hey guys look...A helmet wearing dumb ass ha...ha...haa."
Your like my buddies in Florida that crack on me because I am from New England and say Caaa not Carrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Frig it.
 
i like how it looks and i would buy it like that. the differences are probably negligable.

obviously anodized is the best approach, but painting or powdercoating isn't going to do much. now if you were to thermal heat coat it, with a material that was very thick (like swain white lightning), you'd definitely notice some more heat being trapped in, because the thickness of the coating is considerably higher than paint or powdercoating.



also, i see a little overspray/gunk on the bottom right area. flat head screwdriver can fix that.


ps - why would i want a black tmic? because the engine bay is so neat and tidy with the stock IC and cover, and the cover doesn't fit over the larger cores, so the black would make it look more stock.
 
Depends on how you want to look at things. I prefer to go by the mantra "form follows function"....an item should do its job BEFORE it looks good.

To each his own.
 
its not the color thats trapping heat, its the actual thickness of the powder coat. So whoever tells you that it doesnt trap heat.....bulls***!

Powdercoat the rediator of you car, it might look pretty but tell me what happens.

please tell them to discuss their rational in this thread.
 
its not the color thats trapping heat, its the actual thickness of the powder coat. So whoever tells you that it doesnt trap heat.....bulls***!

Powdercoat the rediator of you car, it might look pretty but tell me what happens.

please tell them to discuss their rational in this thread.

the color will trap light energy and convert it to heat, now if the coat is real thick maybe it would hold more heat?? seems negliable. since its not exposed to light should be little to no diff, unless the coat is like a half inch thick...then it would be like a jacket
 

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