AutoXRacer
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Also remember that if the dealer rejects you for a warranty issue because you have aftermarket parts on the car, they have to prove that the aftermarket part caused the failure...
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Calling all MS3 Owners with smoking Turbos...
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Also remember that if the dealer rejects you for a warranty issue because you have aftermarket parts on the car, they have to prove that the aftermarket part caused the failure...
Also remember that if the dealer rejects you for a warranty issue because you have aftermarket parts on the car, they have to prove that the aftermarket part caused the failure...
True. However, it seems weird that they would void your warranty when they sell a "warrantied" CBE.
Ok I do not have any exhaust work, I have an Injen Cai, and an hks bov, which i know would have nothing to do with anything. My car sits for 5 minutes and smokes blue like crazy, I have a vid I am giong to post. Who else is getting blue smoke unrealated to their exhaust?
I want to know becuase my car is suppose to be lemoned, instead Mazda is offering me a very minimal cash settlement because they believe my car is fixed. Even though I need another swirl valve and still have a bad bearing on the axle that was replaced. If I take thier offer then I will agree that my car is completely fine and basically be ****** down the road. So anyone that has had or is having this problem please speak up!
Forgive me if I over looked it somewhere, the day this thread started was the last time I was on here. But we should start a list like the Motor mounts that failed, which I also had the pleasure of experiencing.
I want to know becuase my car is suppose to be lemoned, instead Mazda is offering me a very minimal cash settlement because they believe my car is fixed. Even though I need another swirl valve and still have a bad bearing on the axle that was replaced. If I take thier offer then I will agree that my car is completely fine and basically be ****** down the road. So anyone that has had or is having this problem please speak up!
Forgive me if I over looked it somewhere, the day this thread started was the last time I was on here. But we should start a list like the Motor mounts that failed, which I also had the pleasure of experiencing.
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My wife's 07' has been smoking every once in a while after idling for long periods. Bone stock with 17K miles. It's at the dealership now of course they can't duplicate it.
That always is the case, "they cant duplicate it" but as soon as you leave you have a smoke trail a quarter mile long behind you, its bull
You know what they told me the first time, "Its bad gas" bastards
Give it a rest guys, jesus, if your turbo smokes then Mazda will replace it. It is not a big deal. They are not going to put a recall out for something that is not harmful to the vehicle's safe operation.
I dont know if thats 100% true, they dont want to lose money, so if a recall is cheaper than replacing a bunch then they will do a recall. My buddy had his light bulbs recalled on his 2007 Vw Rabbit, I dont see those causing an accident....
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knowledge007
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I dont know if thats 100% true, they dont want to lose money, so if a recall is cheaper than replacing a bunch then they will do a recall. My buddy had his light bulbs recalled on his 2007 Vw Rabbit, I dont see those causing an accident....
So I guess not being able to see at night while operating a motor vehicle is of course no concern for the manufactuer???
How is a recall any different than replacing a bunch less cheaper? Please explain. If recalled then they will be replacing...???
So I guess not being able to see at night while operating a motor vehicle is of course no concern for the manufactuer???
How is a recall any different than replacing a bunch less cheaper? Please explain. If recalled then they will be replacing...???
I suppose it would be a hazard, I dont think of death when my light bulb goes out though. Now how it may save them money - They can send a stock pile of parts to the dealer and have people come in when they please to get it fixed. Not come to the dealer diagnos the problem, overnight a part, come back again to get it replaced. So thier already saving on paying a mech an hour to figure out whats wrong, having to feed you coffee or use their bathrooms, not over nighting one part, which I do a lot of shipping and theres a big difference in that vs standard shipping.
Now do that world wide and see how many millions it may cost that they could have saved.
Thats just how it is, ever see fight club??? lol
Honestly you make it seem like Car makers care about peoples well being, they dont, they just dont want to get sued and lose money, its all about money. They issue recalls ONLY to save money, no other reason...
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Heres the link to my beauty smokin it up, it was about 65 degrees out when I took this vid this fall. How does it compare with other peoples??? Also my camera didnt do the best job of catching all the distant smoke but theres still enough to know that it isnt healthy.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PlFV3skMQRI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PlFV3skMQRI
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Honestly you make it seem like Car makers care about peoples well being, they dont, they just dont want to get sued and lose money, its all about money. They issue recalls ONLY to save money, no other reason...
Actually, it's a comparisson of cost of lawsuits vs cost to fix; whichever is cheapest. I probably beat Knowledge to the gun on this one....
Heres the link to my beauty smokin it up, it was about 65 degrees out when I took this vid this fall. How does it compare with other peoples??? Also my camera didnt do the best job of catching all the distant smoke but theres still enough to know that it isnt healthy.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PlFV3skMQRI
Your car sounds like s***! Is that how the engine really sounds at idle?
Thanks for the awesome video though! Sorry you are having so many problems with your MS3...(pissed)
Someone needs to start an actual list or spreadsheet so we can reference it.
Im going to try Mobil 1 and see if i can duplicate the smoking.
Haha Mobil 1 is the culprit! I agree though Haltech. Someone needs to clean this up and make it easier to compare car configurations with smoking problems.
Actually, it's a comparisson of cost of lawsuits vs cost to fix; whichever is cheapest. I probably beat Knowledge to the gun on this one....
Almost. Its cost of lawsuits, cost of settlements, how many people that might actually sue, actually chance of a suit reaching trial, the possibility of the jury/judge (depending on trial) leaning towards Mazda, same but leaning towards the plaintiff, cost of the lawyer should it go to trial, cost of mediation for settlement, and then all figured into a formula. 99.9% of the time, its easier and cheaper to just pay off the occasional settlement and keep it quiet.
In this case, its cheaper for them to warrant the cost of a smoking turbo when it comes in as opposed to putting out a recall and
A) Cost of repairing every single turbo that comes in with a floating seal, smoking or not
B) Cost of announcing the recall
C) Possible cost against reliability. Mazda is really starting to make a turn around, even though on service side they are one of the lowest rated in CSI scores. I'm sure the last thing they want is word of mouth being "The turbo on the MS3 is bad."
Even with forum word of mouth being what it is, by keeping it on a case to case basis, it appears as an isolated incident. They can deal with it when it comes up, and keep it from spreading like wildfire that the turbo may or may not be bad. And if you come in with a modded exhaust, bingo, they tell you to go back to stock and the problem goes away. Continuing to minimize cost.
knowledge007
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Actually, it's a comparisson of cost of lawsuits vs cost to fix; whichever is cheapest. I probably beat Knowledge to the gun on this one....
hehe
knowledge007
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Heres the link to my beauty smokin it up, it was about 65 degrees out when I took this vid this fall. How does it compare with other peoples??? Also my camera didnt do the best job of catching all the distant smoke but theres still enough to know that it isnt healthy.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PlFV3skMQRI
Thats nothing my forum friend. My smoking was atleast 2 times worst than that. No joke. As a matter of fact, when the dealer started my car to move into the bay for service they said if fogged up the whole shop to the point where it needed to be ventilated b/c they couldn't even see. Which of course I knew exactly what they were talking about.
absolutamente
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BLUE SMOKE/ EXHAUST TYPE / and if TURBO REPLACED
1. Voickoil- Heavy Blue smoke / stock exhuast / not yet
Blue and thick black smoke on a few occassions / stock exhaust / "cannot duplicate problem"
That always is the case, "they cant duplicate it" but as soon as you leave you have a smoke trail a quarter mile long behind you, its bull
You know what they told me the first time, "Its bad gas" bastards
I'm picking the car up today. They're blaming it on condensation. I'm pissed!
Haha Mobil 1 is the culprit! I agree though Haltech. Someone needs to clean this up and make it easier to compare car configurations with smoking problems.
Im using RP however, thats why im going to try M1.
blacksheepms3
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And if you come in with a modded exhaust, bingo, they tell you to go back to stock and the problem goes away. Continuing to minimize cost.
If you go back to stock exhaust and the problem disappears then would that prove that there is something wrong with the turbo seal therefore they need to replace your turbo....or.....would they basically tell you when u go back to stock and u show up at the dealership with no mroe smoke.."what smoke? i dont see smoke. Your car is ok we dont need to replace your turbo"
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