Opinions - Cold start turbo engines

[nig3]

funny story for you, i had a neighbor that had an old m3 and everymorning he would start the car with gas floored and redline the hell out of it to get it warmed up, i would just laugh and stare at him and watch all the little pieces of motor shoot out his tailpipe, then he would drift around the corner. needless to say his car began to smoke and cosume oil very badly till one day he misshifted from 3rd to 2nd, the dealer said his motor his 14,000 rpms before it exploded! i laughed so hard when he told me that. anyway if you give a damn about your car always let it warm up to operating temp before you start reving on it or driving it hard, you car will love you for it.

 

[SwampAss]

How would they know the motor rev'd to 14K? I think the redline on the newer ones is 8k. The older ones were even lower.

 

[Young Roids]

How would they know the motor rev'd to 14K? I think the redline on the newer ones is 8k. The older ones were even lower.

maybe the black box can record that kind of info.

 

[SwampAss]

heh. yeah. Or nig3 needs to troll a bit harder. It would be physically impossible to rev a motor with a redline of 8k or less all the way to 14k.

And please, if anyone has a more concise understanding, please step in but:

Current metallurgy will only allow for pistons to travel a certain number of feet per second before s*** goes NESW. Unless the M3 he is talking about has almost no stroke and an enormous bore, it's not revving to 14k let alone 10k.

The motor would have never supported it even *IF*! there was some sort of electronic sensor reading to have recorded that.

 

[Young Roids]

He said it got to 14000 from a bad down shift not from the engine accelerating.

 

[flipstylex]

i know u can bypass the manual to put in the remote starter. But what i'm saying is LEGALLY. anyways, in NJ, it's illegal to put in remote start on manuals

 

[SwampAss]

And I said it's physically impossible due to metallurgy contraints for it to even make it there. Whether you are standing on the gas or not.

 

[Young Roids]

And I said it's physically impossible due to metallurgy contraints for it to even make it there. Whether you are standing on the gas or not.

What happens to engines when they reach this speed and what speed does it happen at?

 

[Sacrilicious]

What happens to engines when they reach this speed and what speed does it happen at?

i think the implication is that something snaps before you can force the piston to move that fast...^^;

 

[Sacrilicious]

i know u can bypass the manual to put in the remote starter. But what i'm saying is LEGALLY. anyways, in NJ, it's illegal to put in remote start on manuals

whoa...i had no idea it was technically illegal...=O

 

[Hikaru9]

i think the implication is that something snaps before you can force the piston to move that fast...^^;

Yeah, that happened to my former coworker who used to own a Celica GT-S. This was when Toyota started offering the 6-speed gearbox for the Celica for first time, and this guy was fairly new to driving the manual tranny. From what I heard, he was driving a bit fast on I-66. When he tried to shift from the 6th gear to the 4th gear, he accidentally put it into the 2nd gear. I wasn't there to witness it, but he said his car literally went "boom." I felt really badly for the guy, but I have to admit it sounded funny at the time. ^_^;;

 

[Falconx84]

ok, so about this whole warmup deal..... on modern vehicles, just wait until the idle drops a bit, as it allows the oil pressure to stabilize (i know something to this effect was posted prior, but I don't recall anyone mentioning oil pressure

About the remote start deal... technically, it is illegal in most places no matter what transmission you have. It is illegal to leave an unattended vehicle running, both for the environment AND because so many vehicles have been stolen because people were stupid enough to leave them running to warm up. I understand that with most remote starters, if you touch the gas w/o inserting the key it will shut off, but the last time I checked, the law did not account for that. It may be different elsewhere, but I know where I lived in VA and WV it was illegal.

As far as not using the handbrake with a manual -- I forget who posted it and I'm not going to look for it b/c I'm lazy, but I assume you haven't lived in too many cold places or else you're just lucky. I had an issue with one car (automatic) where I set the handbrake everyday no matter what. One day I had been out in the snow and the brakes where warm so it melted the snow and made the brakes wet. I set the handbrake, and the next morning the wet brakes had turned to ice. This was evident when I had let off the handbrake and it didn't release and took no effort to lift the e-brake handle again. Just something to keep in mind

 

[Sacrilicious]

good lord...i need to remember that hand brake thing before i get myself into an embarrassing situation...^^;

 

[ForceFed]

How about......We refer to the owners manual and lets just see what the people who Engineered and designed the car say about this.
That will be the end of story.

 

[Sacrilicious]

whatever would we do THAT for? ;o

 

[Mattw_43]

I just had an engine block heater installed on mine last week, and I'm impressed. Start it, let it idle for a bit and off I go. And no worries about excess wear.

 

[chuyler1]

I turn the car on, put my seat belt on, pick a CD, and then drive off keeping it under 3KRPMs for at least 1-2 miles.

 

[BlackJack]

I just drive it like I stole it. Mainly cause i'm always in a hurry

 

[Sacrilicious]

...probably cause you DID! (argh)

 

[Hirudin]

ok, so about this whole warmup deal...

Nice job steering the thread back on topic...
As to not thread jack myself I've started: What happens when you shift into the wrong gear...