Oh, I get what you're saying now; I thought you meant, flatly, 30whp is no big deal. (flash)
Who wants dibs on the XEDE PnP System?
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Oh, I get what you're saying now; I thought you meant, flatly, 30whp is no big deal. (flash)
I am not a rocket scientist... [Captain Obvious disclaimer alert]
But can't somebody with a little fabrication or artistic ability make a resin mold based on the male connector you have OF the female connector? I don't know what this connector looks like, but of ANY system with male/female connectors one can usually envision or reverse enginner one or the other if they have half of the pair. Is it just the innards of the female connector that are giving everyone so much trouble, and not the housing/body of the part?
Somebody call the Mythbusters! I bet they could fabricate a female connector in no time, then get some knowledgeable people and some wiring manuals... Yeah, I know, I'm just a thinker.Ain't never as easy as you 'think' it would be. I just wish SOMEBODY would make a EMS that was plug and play because I want one something fierce, but I am NOT splicing and cutting and taping up wires.
And somebody made a point above about pricing; when Cobb comes they'll be near the cheapest, and PnP - so it seems for me after some more comparison shopping, giving Xede or CPE or SOMEONE else has PnP, if they don't match in price I'm already in the Cobb campground.
Welp you can wait around as long as you like for COBB. Goodluck with that one.
As far as the connectors go, its much easier said than done. Do it yourself and sell em.(blah)
that's 30hp untuned.
There are some cars making great power gains with tuned stand alone systems.
I saw someone with 309hp and 364tq with the CPE standback I believe. It's more than the whole "peak hp/tq" thing too. These cars make s*** loads more bottom end and midrange tuned. That's where you really feel it.
wow. (dunno)
umm some1 made 311whp and 36x tq with the stock airbox/test pipe/mbc. What exactly is your point? The only way a standback is needed is when they actaully get rid of the throttle shutting.
How much boost?
18 psi, a simple mbc adds boost in the 1st gear to about 13-14, 2nd on hit 18 and hold it there unlike stock. I am still yet to understand why people buy standback when all they are doing is adding a boost and a tiny bit of fuel. Once some1 figures out how to make power past 6k, then ill buy a stand back untill then ill be happy with a 80 dollar boost controller and a 75 dollar boost cut defender.
Having previously had a car that ran with an MBC exclusively and then having aftermarket software, I can honestly say I much preferred the software over the MBC. THe MBC performed erratically during part throttle applications.
As for asking why someone would spend money on software vs. an MBC, that's up to the individual person. If you are happy running your MBC GREAT! Why spend $1000 on software? Got me. Why spend $1000 on stereo equipment? Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks.
As for asking why someone would spend money on software vs. an MBC, that's up to the individual person. If you are happy running your MBC GREAT! Why spend $1000 on software? Got me. Why spend $1000 on stereo equipment? Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks.
AutoXRacer
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I'm in for an Xede!!!! Just patiently waiting for PnP...
Add me to the list!!
Add me to the list!!
StephanieT
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Simply put the Xede does more than raise the boost. It also has more capabilities than anything else out there. It controls fuel, timing, MAP sensor and Boost - ALL from the moment the car is turn. And with no check engine light. Not to mention the injection water spray capability, map switch and OBDII compatibility.
It is not ALL about power. It is making power efficiently. The most power possible at the lowest boost pressure. 288 whp @ 16 psi is pretty darn good when I have seen dyno sheets in the 250's @ 20 psi. An efficient system will lead to longer motor life. Less wear and tear on the engines and better fuel economy.
If you still need dyno sheet proof, shoot me an e-mail I would be happy to send you the Winpep file. It's not like I can alter those or duplicate it elsewhere....
Stephanie
288whp at 16psi is raising boost. Theres a big difference btwn stock cars peaking 15psi and holding 15psi. my stock car held 13psi by 5500rpm. Controlt he boost and make it linear, and you will gain power.
Stephanie, quick question.
Once the Xede PnP is released, will their be downloadable maps? For example, if I buy one and I'm other wise stock, would you offer maps for say, an intake and exhaust? Or should I decide to VTA, would I be able to load up a map for that?
I'm very interested in the Xede after seeing all the results of Xede/PROcede with the BMW 335i's. If downloadable maps were made available, much like the Vishnu PROcede for the 335i, then it would totally seal the deal. For me, at least.
Once the Xede PnP is released, will their be downloadable maps? For example, if I buy one and I'm other wise stock, would you offer maps for say, an intake and exhaust? Or should I decide to VTA, would I be able to load up a map for that?
I'm very interested in the Xede after seeing all the results of Xede/PROcede with the BMW 335i's. If downloadable maps were made available, much like the Vishnu PROcede for the 335i, then it would totally seal the deal. For me, at least.
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StephanieT
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Which is only some of what the Xede does. If you make boost linear you still need to adjust fuel and timing or risk the motor going 'boom'.
Stephanie
Stephanie
no, no you dont. unless by adjust you mean take away. if anything you have to remove fuel and increase timing. And obviously running rich with retarded timing is not gonna make you blow up anytime soon
StephanieT
Member
We have those now. And really, they do not differ too much from the base map. I just do not post them on the web for liability reasons.
I have several people that send me maps and datalogs, I alter them, and return them. All the end user does is load and save the map.
Stephanie
p.s. I grew up in Colleyville. Things have changed alot!!
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StephanieT
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You just answered your own statement. I did not say how it needed to be altered, but that it DID need to be altered. And running too rich does create motor problems. Maybe not immediately, but over time, the wear will kill the engine.
Stephanie
oh boy. Turning up boost will lean you out to begin with. you will still be rich, but leaner then stock. So according to you the stock engine is going to go boom on the stock boost? Seriously im not bashing on it, nor am i praising it, but this does nothign special. it controls fuel, timing, boost, maf/map voltages....just like any other standback out there, excpet this one is more expensive.
Is that so? Well, small world, huh?
And that sounds great. Definately count me in once you get the PnP system!
StephanieT
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There is no need to make assumptions or according to's for me. Ask me to spell it out first, otherwise you mislead others as well.
If you alter the boost setting from the way it comes from the factory, then there are changes that must be made to the timing and fuel. The car is programmed in the ECU for a specific fuel, timing, boost level at a specific RPM. If you put 13 psi where there was once 11 psi allowed, the ECU is not programmed for that function. So something else has to do it.
Probably for a reason. There is a whole lot more development put into the Xede than some others out there. If it is truly nothing special, explain in detail what other products can do that the Xede cannot. I would be happy to explain the logic as to why it doesn't do that function, or how it is better.
Stephanie
first off, turning up the boost under wot will change nothing, how do i know? i did it on my car. The maf compensates for the added air and adds more fuel, its how maf cars work. The problem lies at part throttle boost.
There is nothing this unit can do in regards to tuning that the cpe unit cant. They both have vast control over all the basic parameters....excpet once again this one is about 400 bucks more.
people fail to realize there is only so much you can control. Both top version will control;
timing
fuel
map
maf
boost
throttle
what else is there that makes this so much better than anything else?
