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You guys make me laugh...
By the sound of it you would be happiest in a rocket sled (cool)
By the sound of it you would be happiest in a rocket sled (cool)
Sometimes...I just love my MS3...
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Now THAT is a different story
So now were comparing the the speed 3 to super bikes? (wow)
I'll make due...
So now were comparing the the speed 3 to super bikes? (wow)
Yea, but all those cars you mentioned are highly modified cars. The MS3 has what a CAI and TBE. You could probubly get a MS3 up to 450hp as well with correct mods. And in the Grand scheme of things I would like to see a MS3 stock, run aginst all these cars STOCK and we could see what happened. So you could say that the MS3 out of the box is FAST(drive2)
exaclty
I agree MS3ICA, the Speed3 is fast...
correct. I said "in the grand scheme of things". None of us who are regular posters have a heavily modified MS3, so that point is moot.
Current argument:
The MS3 is fast (currently, with only bolt ons because frankly, that's all that is available)
The MS3 is not fast considering the masses of street legal, or quasi street legal cars out there that ARE fast.
13 second quarters are good.
11 second quarters are crazy in comparison.
You'd have to experience the power of each to know how great that difference is.
Well I have experienced power my friend. I have rode in a 2000 Cobra R.
Damn that was a fast car. Then a 03/04 Cobra "terminator" and that thing was bad ass. So I know what fast car feel like. I would say that the MS3 is a well balanced machine though. Good power, handling and a nice interior. A car you can take to the strip on the weekends and have fun, then drive it to work on monday and it will still put a smile on your face.(rockon)
It's nice to know that the stock Mazdaspeed 3 is faster than all of those cars stock.
Stock Mustang from around that year:
1985 Ford Mustang GT 6.4 14.9 (C&D, Jan. 85)
1987 Ford Mustang GT 6.4 14.4 (Automobile, April 87)
Stock 350Z:
2003 Nissan 350z 5.4 14.1
2004 Nissan 350z Roadster 5.7 14.3
2005 Nissan 350Z 35th Anniversary Edition 6 Speed 5.8 14.3 (C&D Apr '05)
Stock Audi TT:
2000 Audi TT Quattro Roadster 6.2 14.7
Stock Mazdaspeed 3:
2007 Mazdaspeed 3 GT 5.4 14.0
Actually, Feb 07 C&D reports the following for the MS3:
0-to-60-mph time: 5.8 sec
Quarter-mile time: 14.4 sec @ 99 mph
So I guess you would call a 2007 Camry V6 a "powerful car" too? You would have to by your standards:
0-to-60-mph time: 5.8 sec
Quarter-mile time: 14.3 sec @ 99 mph
Or how about a stock, plain vanilla 2007 WRX (No STI!):
0-to-60-mph time: 5.6 sec
Quarter-mile time: 14.3 sec @ 96 mph
Oh and while we are at it...let's compare current cars with current cars:
2007 Nissan 350Z
0-to-60-mph time: 5.2 sec
Quarter-mile time: 13.7 sec @ 104 mph
2007 Ford Mustand GT
0-to-60-mph time: 5.1 sec
Quarter-mile time: 13.8 sec @ 103 mph
2007 Subaru Legacy 2.5GT
0-to-60-mph time: 5.3 sec
Quarter-mile time: 14.1 sec @ 97 mph
So...let me say it for the forth time. The MS3 is a great all around car. It has nice conservative looks. It is practical. It is offered at a great price. It is fun to drive, thanks mostly to it's above average engine. I love my MS3, but again, it is not a powerful car. If I considered it a powerful car, that would mean every V8, 80% of the V6s, and 25% of the I4s would have to be considered powerful! My standards for "powerful" are just higher than yours. No insult to the MS3 is being made here. Like I said, I love the car, but unless she starts making 350+ HP, 4th gear and up will never be that exciting for me.
0-to-60-mph time: 5.8 sec
Quarter-mile time: 14.4 sec @ 99 mph
So I guess you would call a 2007 Camry V6 a "powerful car" too? You would have to by your standards:
0-to-60-mph time: 5.8 sec
Quarter-mile time: 14.3 sec @ 99 mph
Or how about a stock, plain vanilla 2007 WRX (No STI!):
0-to-60-mph time: 5.6 sec
Quarter-mile time: 14.3 sec @ 96 mph
Oh and while we are at it...let's compare current cars with current cars:
2007 Nissan 350Z
0-to-60-mph time: 5.2 sec
Quarter-mile time: 13.7 sec @ 104 mph
2007 Ford Mustand GT
0-to-60-mph time: 5.1 sec
Quarter-mile time: 13.8 sec @ 103 mph
2007 Subaru Legacy 2.5GT
0-to-60-mph time: 5.3 sec
Quarter-mile time: 14.1 sec @ 97 mph
So...let me say it for the forth time. The MS3 is a great all around car. It has nice conservative looks. It is practical. It is offered at a great price. It is fun to drive, thanks mostly to it's above average engine. I love my MS3, but again, it is not a powerful car. If I considered it a powerful car, that would mean every V8, 80% of the V6s, and 25% of the I4s would have to be considered powerful! My standards for "powerful" are just higher than yours. No insult to the MS3 is being made here. Like I said, I love the car, but unless she starts making 350+ HP, 4th gear and up will never be that exciting for me.
these 350z times are wrong! even if you get these out of some magazine or some bs like that the new 350z is slower than a stock msp3..i was a tech at nissan for about 3 years, and race a couple people i know at the dealer in "07 350z's" and dust them all the time! they cant keep up plain and simple. they are overated cars and nissan advertises them like there the gift of god. but i worked on them all the time and we had the most problems with them more than any othere car that nissan makes. not to get off topic but "07' 350z" = "SLOOOOOWWWW"
Maybe true...I was just quoting magazine numbers with magazine numbers to prove a point. Even if the 350z isn't making a 5.2s 0-60 times, I would bet they are still going to beat all but the best MS3 drivers.
Still....getting back to my point, we can say (based on your statements) that neither the 350z or the MS3 are powerful cars! (stock on both of course.)
Still....getting back to my point, we can say (based on your statements) that neither the 350z or the MS3 are powerful cars! (stock on both of course.)
I would say you are making some good numbers with those mods....
