Sometimes...I just love my MS3...

[camrycev6]

Don`t worry with an upcoming Garret Gt30r Turbo upgrade kit ,with all supporting mods, the SC G35 coupe won`t stand a chance.WE will have 400hp under the hood except that our cars weigh lessThe stock MS3 has been reported to already do a 0-60 5.4/14sec qmile flat with 263hp only,so with 390hp&390lbs torque+ we are talking stg1-2 E46 M3&G35 stg1-2 turbo times.It`s all a matter of time.

Well...maybe from a roll... but not from a dig. My G35 was making 366HP at the wheels which with a 15% loss, comes to 430 HP under the hood. You would need a perfect launch in a FWD car.

 

[TonyBSRT]

It's not powerful when you're used to a S/C'd G35! Now, if you're coming from a Civic, then yes, it's powerful.

 

[camrycev6]

"can't call it a powerful car?", are you didy? the car has 235 wheel hp, 250 wheel tq, what is powerful to you 5-600 hp?

No...I don't consider that powerful. Good, peppy, fun....yes. When a car pulls hard in 5/6 gears...that feels / is powerful. And unless you are driving a very lightweight car, you need 300+HP / 300+ tq (wheels) to accomplish that in my opinion. Go drive a vette, a mustang cobra, or anything making 350+ under the hood and see what I mean.

 

[I vtec do you?]

I agree with most of everything you said except the 'not powerful' part. For the price, it's substantially powerful. Even if it was 10k more, it'd still be powerful imo. 260ish horsepower and 280ish ft-lbs of torque on a 4-cyl is quite powerful.. I guess you have to look at it relative to what it is, that being a 4-cylinder econo-engine.

 

[SwampAss]

Well...maybe from a roll... but not from a dig. My G35 was making 366HP at the wheels which with a 15% loss, comes to 430 HP under the hood. You would need a perfect launch in a FWD car.

Heh...my buddy's Z makes almost the exact hp @ 7psi. Low 370s.

 

[camrycev6]

I agree with most of everything you said except the 'not powerful' part. For the price, it's substantially powerful. Even if it was 10k more, it'd still be powerful imo. 260ish horsepower and 280ish ft-lbs of torque on a 4-cyl is quite powerful.. I guess you have to look at it relative to what it is, that being a 4-cylinder econo-engine.

When I was referring to the being powerful part early on in this post, I already qualified it against the price. I am speaking only of pure performance here. I stand by my statement that the MS3 is very close to powerful, but still is not a powerful car --- at any price, with any number of cylinders. It is at least 60-70 HP short of making the "powerful" grade.

 

[camrycev6]

Heh...my buddy's Z makes almost the exact hp @ 7psi. Low 370s.

Swampass, not surprised.... I was running 7 psi with the Procharger SC system. Since the Z and the G35 share the exact same engine, it would make perfect sense...especially if you consider the Z made a little more power over the G.

 

[chriscecc914]

Well...maybe from a roll... but not from a dig. My G35 was making 366HP at the wheels which with a 15% loss, comes to 430 HP under the hood. You would need a perfect launch in a FWD car.

366rwhp, 3000+lbs weight, mid 11's? im not to sure about that one. Unless you are a pro drag driver.

 

[TonyBSRT]

^^Why is that hard to believe? There are FWD SRT4's with that much WHP running 11's.

 

[camrycev6]

366rwhp, 3000+lbs weight, mid 11's? im not to sure about that one. Unless you are a pro drag driver.

Not a pro race driver...my buddy races at the track all the time (God knows he has modded every car he has ever owned!), so I went with him and let him do it. 11.6 was his best time... or so I thought... I just called him, because like I said he is the pro at that stuff, not me...well Whoops... he ran a 12.6, not a 11.6... Sorry about that. I thought I remembered correctly, so I had to go back and ask! I edited my early post to change it to mid 12s...I don't want to BS here.

 

[stevekt]

The Speed 3 is a powerful car.

 

[flipstylex]

naaaa.... really >>>>??? !!!!!

 

[mcb]

nope he's joking.... It's the worse car ever made (poke)


cant even stand to a honda fit

(peep)

 

[camrycev6]

The Speed 3 is a powerful car.

I love the MS3, but we will have to agree to disagree on that one. I can't call the MS3 powerful.

 

[MS3ICA]

I love the MS3, but we will have to agree to disagree on that one. I can't call the MS3 powerful.

in your sig it sais 257whp and 279wtq, to you that is not powerful but i must say if a vote was taken you would be the minority....

 

[SwampAss]

Class-wise, it's very powerful.

Overall, not so much.

 

[MS3ICA]

what do you consider "overall". put it this way its much more powerful then most cars on the road....

 

[camrycev6]

Class-wise, it's very powerful.

Overall, not so much.

Once again, SwampAss, I agree completely. In the respective class it is powerful, but as I am sure you are already aware, I was speaking in general. Without using any qualifiers, I cannot call the MS3 powerful.

 

[SwampAss]

what do you consider "overall". put it this way its much more powerful then most cars on the road....

It's faster than many stock cars on the road. We all know most stock cars (barring exotics) aren't that fast. Again, in the grand scheme of things.

My friend Bill's 600 rwhp (on motor) 789 on Nitrous) 1986 Mustang = fast.
My friend Rick's 380 rwhp Greddy Twin T 350Z = fast
My friend Sean's 420 AWHP Audi TT with a built 2.0 and Dahlback Turbo = fast
Swampy's 290ish MS3 (crank!) = sucking wind.

 

[MS3ICA]

right in the grand scheme of things its a powerful car