ahah sorry guys i've been on here everyday i just havent been posting much, i just am waiting for the day i get the call your car is here. That sounds like a really good comparison between the gti 1.8 t. I think they are suppose to be about the same speed, but i know the msp is lighter, i wanna test drive one so i can tell the difference when i drive the msp. I know the guy who had the orange dropped out at The dealership so maybe they will let us test drive that one, we should just say we have deposits so thye have to cause we have been waiting so long, what do you guys think?