Was offered a good price to put on the Nitrous Express "N-Ter" cooler kit

[OrangeSpeed]

What do you think about this kit, it sprays on the intercooler and they have seen gains of 52 horsepower at teh wheels with a turbocharged civic. The guy at the shop said I wont see those on teh stock intercooler but he said i would be able to tell a big difference, possibly up to 30 horsepower as a guess on a car he has not worked on. But he has been dealing nitrous express for 15 years and knows his stuff. What are your opinions on this? Too risky? Go for it? Let me know Thanks.

 

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

i would really suggest changing out the intercooler and exhaust first. the exhaust would be the first on my list of major mods. that stock turbo back is just WAY tooooo restrictive. if you wanna be hardcore use 3" piping, if not 2.25-2.75" is more than decent then get a nice big front mount or a top mount with working hood scoop (scoop's gotta be big, like the STI scoop). that should cool down the intercooler nicely. after that, put the n-tercooler kit in. that will lower the already (relatively) low temp of the intercooler. after that you will see real gains.

 

[ozz]

if your gona do that you should just get the freon to air intercooler/ hooks up to your ac/leagle and never have to refill

 

[BlackMSP]

ya im going with 3" stainless exhaust and a way larger FMIC right when I get my car back.

 

[I-Am-Chris]

um use CO2 instead of Nitrous its alot cheaper

 

[OrangeSpeed]

But even with Co2 which he said i could use, should i do this? I mean its 375 for the kit and like nothing for install..... he said he installed one on a 1.8T and he said through 1st and 2nd there wasnt much difference but once they hit 3rd and 4th after the intercooler was frozen.... he said it was unbelievable the power rush was great. I just dont want to do something pointless. Thanks

 

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

then go for it. i know it works. the price is good too

 

[OrangeSpeed]

The only worry i had and i was wondering if anyone thinks i would be expierencing this. The freezing and thawing of the intercooler....the expansions and contractions from cold to hot, would that affect anything? I mean im not going to be spraying up to the grocery store or anything just at the track and a couple times on the street a week. Would this have a bearing on anything? Thanks, other than that i think im going to go for it soon.

 

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

na it shouldn't. the intercooler expands and contracts all the time. pick up (try to) a copy of the latest tech issue of Turbo magazine. its the one about turbos. there is some really interesting stuff in there about turbos, impeller blades, compressor maps, intercoolers, oil, etc.

 

[twiztedjeckel]

yeah man go for it. spray till your blue in the face. make sure you use alot of it so it throws off the readings on your ECU and makes it think its readings are correct and does funky things to the car.

 

[big_ben]

How much was he going to sell it for? I have one I'm selling, maybe I'll beat his price. Let me know.

 

[OrangeSpeed]

Dude twisted instead of saying random stuff that doesnt help and being kind of nasty for some reason, it would help if you could give me reason why, dude everything can mess up the computer the k&n can mess it up so whats the big deal if it doesnt work i can take it off. My main question was would i gain out of it and would it affect my intercooler. Later

 

[OrangeSpeed]

Oh and he wanted 379.95 for the whole kit, so if you can beat that price and hold on to it for a little while i would probably be interested. Is yours used at all? Thanks

 

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

yeah anything beyond stock will jack up the balance in the ECM. just flash it b4 you do any performance mods. well i don't think flashing will work for this mod cuz its a HP-on-demand mod, like nitrous and turbo timers. just to be safe, orange you better flash it b4 ur first shot.

 

[03SpeedLSD]

FLASH??? Please explain this. Thanx...Later,

 

[boostisgood]

yeah anything beyond stock will jack up the balance in the ECM. just flash it b4 you do any performance mods. well i don't think flashing will work for this mod cuz its a HP-on-demand mod, like nitrous and turbo timers. just to be safe, orange you better flash it b4 ur first shot.

Dear lord, if you do not know WTF you are talking about, please dont post in a thread you have absolutly no idea what is being discussed. He wants to put on a kit that sprays notrous ON his intercooler, it in no way, shape, or form will throw off anything with his computer. it has a MAF at the filter and after the stock IC. the computer reads the MAF after the Ic to calculate the correct fuel needed, the maf at the air filter is related to boost pressure release.

Flashing a computer dont do s*** anyways but cause long term problems. If anything for engine managment, you go with a stand alone unit or an Air Fuel controller.

Not Flaming, just giving advise to make sure you know what your talking about instead of making yourself look like a fool.

 

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

yeah i know what the freak the n-tercooler is. its a rail that mounts onto the intercooler and nitrous goes through it ONTO the intercooler. thats why i said "well i don't think flashing will work for this mod". and as for the flashing (haha) someone else said that that was a good idea, so i was going off that. sry if i mess up neones car (geez). but wait, isn't there a temp sensor somewhere on the intake route??

 

[twiztedjeckel]

http://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=76714&perpage=25&pagenumber=3

some interesting results on page 3 incase it doesn't automatically direct you to it. but there is lots of useful info on the 2 previous pages. i suggest you ladies take a look at it. might shed a little light onto what i was saying in my earlier post.

 

[I-Am-Chris]

wow crazy, its a good kit if you are in alot of hot weather. dont get me wrong it works good in cold too. look how big the spraybar is and make sure it will fit! they good thing is if you do a FMIC you can still use it. I've personally heard good thing about the kit. Ive seen people spray fire ext., nitrous strait out the bottle, water sprayer kits, CO2, and other things. I would just save it for the track or Street races (OH NO I SAID IT!!!!!!!!) hahaha!!!!

 

[big_ben]

I'll give you mine for $350 shipped. I bought mine new and never installed it. It isn't in the package because I had to at least take it out and look at it and drool on it, but besides that, it's new. You may have to wipe the drool off of it. J/K I can hang on to it till whenever. Just let me know when.