Second/Next Choice after the MS6
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I agree with you Karma an EVO X. Heard that the Evo X was going to have a more "refined" interior than the previous models and put out a crapload more HP, and TQ than its predecessor. We'll see in the coming auto shows here in NY what it's capable of. Now if they could price it in the mid 30's.....
ptperformance
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G8 looks like a CTS caddy.
Okay, don't laugh..................
The wife was most interested in the Volvo S40, with the 5cyl. turbo/AWD(encourage ........until I read in CR reports about it's realiability/dependability ratings..
Thank GAWD for CR reports............(mswerd)
Otherwise, I would'nt be driving my MS/6
The wife was most interested in the Volvo S40, with the 5cyl. turbo/AWD(encourage ........until I read in CR reports about it's realiability/dependability ratings..
Thank GAWD for CR reports............(mswerd)
Otherwise, I would'nt be driving my MS/6
MississippiSpd6
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- 06 Speed6 GT
I would have bought either an 07 Infiniti G35 sedan, or an 07 Acura TL.
I like having the room of the four door with the performance of a sedan!
I like having the room of the four door with the performance of a sedan!
Are we really comparing resale value of a mazda to anything else here? Come on we know that mazda has very bad resale value, look @ what NEW ms6's are going for.......don't get me wrong I love my msp and probably won't ever sell it. But, when you drive a mazda you really can't bust on another company's resale value, however bad it may be.
msp35 said:
um..yes mazda resale sucks compared to some other japanese brands, but in general its not bad. my old intrepid was bought new in 1995 for $25,000. i SOLD it to a 3rd party in 2001 for $4500. my protege was bought new for $16,000 in 2001. I TRADED it in for $3750 last month. the Protege had more miles, and modifications, which brings the value down quite a bit.
so, recap:
Dodge: 6 years, loss of $20,500
Mazda: 6 years, loss of $12,250
In all fairness to your comparison, my sister had a P.O.S 98 intrepid she picked up for dirt cheap. That thing was a pile. Glovebox falling off, had to open psgr side door from inside, windows ******, torn interior.....just being fair. I'm not sayin the protege is top of the line either, but far better build quality than an intrepid.
Back to the subject...
I bought the MS6 because of the options and the price point. It faired OK in reviews and it really fun to drive. If it didn't exist, I probably wouldn't have bought anything. I like the MS3 but I knew my next car would have to be mid-sized at best.
Lets say AWD mid-sized sporty sedan was my requirement. If I was unwilling to budge on any of those features I would have bought an Audi A4 in the same price range as the MS6. A new base-model would be on the high end or a used model to keep prices similar. The rest of the cars out there don't really appeal to me. The BMW 325xi is a nice car but I'm not a Bimmer kind of guy. I hate the styling of the Legacy GT even if it one of the fastest in this class.
If I removed the AWD component from the picture then I could consider a Mazda6 V6 and lots of other cars. But even at the highest trim level many brands don't come close to the features offered on the MS6 for its price. You are basically looking at a poor man's Audi or BMW. Mazda did a great job tackling the base models from the Germans...and did so with more power and a unique style. Around here 3-series bimmers are a dime a dozen...Mazda6s are pretty rare and MS6s are unheard of. I have yet to see one on the road since they came out...granted I wasn't always looking but you just don't see them that often.
I bought the MS6 because of the options and the price point. It faired OK in reviews and it really fun to drive. If it didn't exist, I probably wouldn't have bought anything. I like the MS3 but I knew my next car would have to be mid-sized at best.
Lets say AWD mid-sized sporty sedan was my requirement. If I was unwilling to budge on any of those features I would have bought an Audi A4 in the same price range as the MS6. A new base-model would be on the high end or a used model to keep prices similar. The rest of the cars out there don't really appeal to me. The BMW 325xi is a nice car but I'm not a Bimmer kind of guy. I hate the styling of the Legacy GT even if it one of the fastest in this class.
If I removed the AWD component from the picture then I could consider a Mazda6 V6 and lots of other cars. But even at the highest trim level many brands don't come close to the features offered on the MS6 for its price. You are basically looking at a poor man's Audi or BMW. Mazda did a great job tackling the base models from the Germans...and did so with more power and a unique style. Around here 3-series bimmers are a dime a dozen...Mazda6s are pretty rare and MS6s are unheard of. I have yet to see one on the road since they came out...granted I wasn't always looking but you just don't see them that often.
Samdiver74
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- Mazda Speed 6 GT, Black Mica
that Pontiac G8 on the website is actually the Vauxhall Vectra VXR in the UK.
looks ok but I wouldn't buy a Pontiac.
I was almost settling on getting a Graphite Grey Evo 9 MR being as they didn't have the MR in black. That was the only way I could have got the 6 speed gear box and the BBS rims, Bilstein shocks yada yada.
But decided against it because of the cheap interior (excluding the recaro's) no Crusie control, no Auto climate.
there was no option for leather on the recaros on the MR.
So of course I get my Speed 6 and a few months after there's news of the Evo 9 MR SE available in GG, Apex silver and BLACK bloody knew that would happen too.
But I drove the Speed 6 and said to the wife this is it then.
She wanted a Mazda 3, I wanted an Evo so we met in the middle. ha haha ha
I don't regret it one bit, Car is awesome.
I like the fact that it is stealthy to say the least.
If I had gone with an Evo or the STI I would had a lot more unwanted attention, the Rear spoilers are a dead give away.
But now that the EVO X is on the horizon I would love to get one of those. But the price point is going to be $40,000 I can't afford that.
looks ok but I wouldn't buy a Pontiac.
I was almost settling on getting a Graphite Grey Evo 9 MR being as they didn't have the MR in black. That was the only way I could have got the 6 speed gear box and the BBS rims, Bilstein shocks yada yada.
But decided against it because of the cheap interior (excluding the recaro's) no Crusie control, no Auto climate.
there was no option for leather on the recaros on the MR.
So of course I get my Speed 6 and a few months after there's news of the Evo 9 MR SE available in GG, Apex silver and BLACK bloody knew that would happen too.
But I drove the Speed 6 and said to the wife this is it then.
She wanted a Mazda 3, I wanted an Evo so we met in the middle. ha haha ha
I don't regret it one bit, Car is awesome.
I like the fact that it is stealthy to say the least.
If I had gone with an Evo or the STI I would had a lot more unwanted attention, the Rear spoilers are a dead give away.
But now that the EVO X is on the horizon I would love to get one of those. But the price point is going to be $40,000 I can't afford that.
wannabe said:
Don't forget. The more you spend on a car, the more you lose. Spending $25,000 on an American car is always gonna cost you more. You basically bought a $25,000 car with an $18,000 depreciation value. $7,000 gone within the first 6 months you owned it. There's not enough of an original purchase price to a $16000 car to drop that much in that time frame. Depreciation is always lower on a cheaper car, because it has less to drop. It's more accurate to compare cars that cost the same amount of money. Dodge definitely has more depreciation then Mazda, but comparing Mazda to other Japan makes, it's one of the worst, if not the worst.
There's an unfortunate reality that comes with these crazy incentives on Mazda vehicles, especially the Speed 6. When they are forced to sell off the cars for these kind of prices, it means sales are low, and the demand is low, so the depreciation will be insanely high. The more affordable Mazda you buy, the less depreciation you take.
I went into my Speed 6 purchase knowing I'm gonna have to keep this a long time and esentially drive it into the ground, or suffer the wrath of high depreciation. If it's resale value you want in a Japanese car, you'd be smart to avoid Mazda. Subaru is far better, and of course Honda and Toyota are the mac daddies.
Insignificant
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I would have bought a 2004+ TL
