Mazdaspeed OR Ralliart

[nks_bb]

Hello,

Newbie here and I can get my hands on an 03.5 Mazdaspeed or an 04 Ralliart Lancer. Both very similar advertised crank HP is 170 vs 163, and both have an upgraded suspension and they each have aftermarket audio system. Kenwood vs, infinity.

My dilemma here is that the MSP scores high points for having the Turbo and the Lancer scores almost as high point for having a moonroof ( i know a small detail but a huge one for me) since i have never test drove either I'd like for some more insight on the MSP. Thanks for the help.

 

[t3ase]

I'd suggest driving them both. They're now to a point where dealerships will allow test drives (I didn't drive a MSP at all until I had officially signed the papers for mine). Styling wise, I'd pick the MSP. It's more "fluid" looking and less 2F2F style. That's just my opinion, though. Also, Infinity systems are a *b***** to deal with later on so if you're an audio guy, take that into consideration.

You're on a MSP board, we're going to say get the MSP but it's ultimately up to you. If you're in this for power, get the lancer. If you're in it for a on rails ride, get the MSP. Perfect example.. A few members here with MSPs have started autocrossing for the first time this year and many of them won first or second place. How's *that* for a tuned suspension car?

It's TOTALLY up to you. Don't buy a car because of what other people are saying, but it from what the inner you says.

 

[yashooa]

I aint touching this one (outie)

 

[jersey_emt]

I aint touching this one (outie)

LOL

I haven't driven the Ralliart...only a base Lancer and an EVO, so my comments won't help you very much.

Just drive the two and get whatever feels more 'right' to you.

 

[wicked]

I own a msp and my best freind owns a new ralliart,and between the 2 it's up to you
they both have a pretty good sound system (mazda =kenwood) (ralliart=infinion)
mazda=turbo 2.0 DOHC
ralliart n\a 2.4 SOHC
mazda 170 horses
ralli 162
plus plan on there being more performance parts for the ralliart because there is more ralliarts than msp's and its a powerful mitsubishi.
I've driven them both a lot and if i had to choose between them i,d probaly go for the ralliart it's engine is a lot more stable and powerful for a n\a car.
but keep in mind the msp has way better suspension and nice wheels.
If you get the ralli you will allways have a voice in the back of your head saying you own a fake evo=)

the msp looks better too
(uhm) (uhm) (uhm)

 

[Prodigy]

04 Ralliart Lancer! haha.
I love both (design-wise)!
I haven't driven the lancer, only a stock '02 lx though I still lean more towards my screen name, MLEvo. (Mitsubishi Lancer EVOlution) Have fun.
-cat

 

[Prodigy]

Oh yeah, CONGRATS on your 1st post! Welcome to the forums.

 

[BinaryRotary]

Hello,

Newbie here and I can get my hands on an 03.5 Mazdaspeed or an 04 Ralliart Lancer. Both very similar advertised crank HP is 170 vs 163, and both have an upgraded suspension and they each have aftermarket audio system. Kenwood vs, infinity.

My dilemma here is that the MSP scores high points for having the Turbo and the Lancer scores almost as high point for having a moonroof ( i know a small detail but a huge one for me) since i have never test drove either I'd like for some more insight on the MSP. Thanks for the help.

I cant believe this is even posted on this site. Mitsubishi is proof that the Japanese CAN make an inferior product.

 

[mazdaspeedpower]

I dunno which I would choose..haven't seen a ralliart in person, or obviously driven one either.....I think you do really have to drive them both....take everything into consideration. Also, if you plan on upgrading, look into what there is now, and plan on alot more coming out for both, though the ralliart will have big things coming soon(probably) like turbo and such. I dunno, I kinda like the look of the MSP a bit better, but the power curve of the ralliart will be much more stable due to no boost kicking in at whatever range. Look at the newness of the vehicle....MSP has known problems, with fixes/warrenty fixes, and others coming, while the ralliart has some bugs yet to surface to to being a youngin in town. The Mitsubishi nameplate is decent, same as Mazda, so I don't think overall quality will be much different. Inregards to wheels and suspension, yes, MSP is better stock, but with the ralliart, you get to choose what you want to get, if you plan on upgrading. So hey, test drive em, give them several checks, and aftermarket test(see what there is) etc. If it's any consolodation, I LOVE MY MAZDASPEED, and would buy it again....so...happy trails, whichever way you go, I'm sure you'll be happy, but also have byers remorse...cause you never know what the other would be like...I say, go with your heart and you minds first guess after all the tests, it's usually the right one.

 

[LADY MSPD]

i think that the ralliart lancer is really ugly, i would pick the msp any day but if you want a all motor car i'd get a mazda 3 with the 2.3l engine...the msp and the mazda 3 are way better looking cars than a ralliart lancer...but that my opinion...its all up to you...

 

[Spooled]

I've driven both cars to their extents, and even raced them against each other (driving both cars). Here's what I can tell you:

1. Engine: MSP wins, but not by as much as you'd think. The Lancer has some great torque. The Lancer also has a MUCH smoother powerband. For daily driving, I would pick the Lancer, but for hard driving, the MSP is the way to go.

2. Handling: MSP. Period. I don't care what Mitsubishi says they did to the suspension. The Lancer, again, is better for daily driving because of the softer ride, but will roll over with a quick tug on the sterring wheel.

3. Looks: It's all in what I like, but for my money there isn't a better looking car on the road within $20k of the MSP.

4. Interior: Again, it's up to you. The MSP is much mor refined in my book, and has a sportier feel. The stereo in the Ralliart is a POS and doesn't even compare to the Speed's Kenwood. The Sparco decor adds to the gestalt...

5. Overall: If this is a car that you are getting to tide you over 'til you can afford something else (like an S4 or M3 or something) and you just want a daily-driver with some pep, get the Lancer. If you want a special car that gets attention, drives like a real sports car, and will be one of those rare finds you tell your kids about in 20 years, get the MSP.

 

[mspeed101]

I would get an msp! The car handles incredible and is way better looking then lancers. I bet you will turn more heads with an msp then you will the ralliart

 

[Matthew]

all i need to know to make a decision is DOHC vs. SOHC

 

[CommieSpeed]

Uhhhh...MSP all the way. Like binaryrotary said....mitsubishi is is just an inferior product. Aside from the EVO...everything they make is crap...just read consumer reports reviews for the past couple of years. The MSP has it's problems but it ain't no Mitsu. Plus its a SOHC....BLA *spit*. Oh, and I smoke lancers all day...even modded ones.

 

[Prodigy]

Uhhhh...MSP all the way. Like binaryrotary said....mitsubishi is is just an inferior product. Aside from the EVO...everything they make is crap...just read consumer reports reviews for the past couple of years. The MSP has it's problems but it ain't no Mitsu. Plus its a SOHC....BLA *spit*. Oh, and I smoke lancers all day...even modded ones.

ehh... a '93 mitsubishi 300zx twin turbo isn't crap. I'd like to see a video of you whooping one.(strike)

haha, it's alright man.

-c.a.t.

 

[mspeed101]

ehh... a '93 mitsubishi 300zx twin turbo isn't crap. I'd like to see a video of you whooping one.(strike)

haha, it's alright man.

-c.a.t.

lol! I think you mean nissan 300zx!!!

 

[mspeed101]

Uhhhh...MSP all the way. Like binaryrotary said....mitsubishi is is just an inferior product. Aside from the EVO...everything they make is crap...just read consumer reports reviews for the past couple of years. The MSP has it's problems but it ain't no Mitsu. Plus its a SOHC....BLA *spit*. Oh, and I smoke lancers all day...even modded ones.

Whats so bad about sohc? I used to own a eclipse GT which was a sohc and that wasnt crap.

 

[Prodigy]

ehh.. correct. i havent slept for 48+ hours.

 

[Prodigy]

(sad2)

 

[mspeed101]

ehh.. correct. i havent slept for 48+ hours.

Its all good! didnt you mean to say eclipse gst! those cars are sick(evil)