Most applications of thermo, phase changes, etc involve a very important value of Cp which is the speicifc heat of the fluid/gas. This is the amount of heat per unit mass required to raise the temperature 1 degree C. Vaporization absorbs a lot of energy and can be seen using the perfect gas law (PV=nRT). You can view the Cp values for many liquids, and this is how one should compare methods of cooling intake charge. This value alone can be used to compare CO2 and others (in the liquid form). I am sure charts can be found online.
Math behind DEI CryO2 system = + HP
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Yes, however. THe Water displaces fuel and air, so...the intake is colder, but you have to add boost to compenste for the lost HP thus heating up the intake more as the turbo pushes harder...GNO said:
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Found this, but dont know why they wouldnt be with the kitt3ase said:
http://www.designengineering.com/products.asp?m=sp&pid=1&tid=3
my brother play paintball alot and he used to have CO2 in his bottle but changed for N2O because CO2 was too cold. it would freeze the connections and could en up being dangerous if used for too long (happy trigger). So he switched to nitrous because it's not as cold
why would this be different for cars ? He showed me what his CO2 bottle did before and you could see the whole gun freezing ... that doesn't happen anymore with N2O ? or are there 2 different kinds of nitrous ? one that would not be "true" nitrous
why would this be different for cars ? He showed me what his CO2 bottle did before and you could see the whole gun freezing ... that doesn't happen anymore with N2O ? or are there 2 different kinds of nitrous ? one that would not be "true" nitrous
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Sounds like the CO2 will coll better, my point is this though. If you have the N2O in the car, use it to cool the FMIC and Kick a 50 Shot. If you only want cool then CO2 is your way to go!
yea that would make more sense ... the system is already in your car
but you know what ... in french, people call nitrous oxide "nitro" and they also call what they put in those paintball guns nitro too. but i think the paintball stuff is just nitrogen instead of nitrous oxide. that would make more sense. cuz when we looked at my brother's gun, it was warm. there's no way we can use that stuff to cool anything in our car. so im pretty sure they're different
but you know what ... in french, people call nitrous oxide "nitro" and they also call what they put in those paintball guns nitro too. but i think the paintball stuff is just nitrogen instead of nitrous oxide. that would make more sense. cuz when we looked at my brother's gun, it was warm. there's no way we can use that stuff to cool anything in our car. so im pretty sure they're different
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C'est le N2, pas the N2O.Metal MP5 said:
The instructions are rudementary, pretty much...you have to know what you are doing to install the kit. DEI says: Connect tube to tank, run tube from tank to solenoid, connect tube to solenoid, etc etc. If you know how to use fittings, and work with braided line, I am guessing install is easy. Most work is mounting the tank, running the cable nicely, and cutting your intake pipe to accomodate their attachment. I am still talking with DEI about sponsorship, installation, etc. I have the money....but I just bought HiBoost FMIC, and I try to regulate how much $ I spend monthly otherwise I would be broke. Maybe in the spring. The $150 ticket for "squealing my tires" and illegal tint this past weekend also doesn't help.
Yeah, the concept of installation is easy to understand, however, with the kit being as "rough" as it is quality wise, it leaves a lot to be desired. If you do get this kit and they have not improved quality, expect quite a bit of self rigging time. This is certainly not a ready-out-of-the-box kit.
Next weekend better be nice weather....
