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Hughes412 said:
You are clearly obsessed with big shlongs.
House rejects gay marriage ban amendment
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You are clearly obsessed with big shlongs.
Hughes412 said:
why should I ask your opinion, this post here sums it up:
Hughes412 said:
comments like that sure aren't "helpfull" to the gay community....I'll say it again...you're a Christian when you want to, then put that aside to gay bash....'cough cough' HIPOCRIT!
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Hughes412 said:
NO! It's not about big shlongs. For Christ's sake. Will you pay attention please. Geesh! You really are obsessed..
Revs said:
Well see, I'm not out to help the gay community any more. After trying to help them and still get ragged on I say **** em. And I am always a Christian! I sin just like everyone else though. The good thing about that, is like Donas64 said. God knows what your TRUE intentions are! I don't have anything to worry about.
And the priorities are . . .
I see this thread has gone the way of the other muckraking pseudo-political threads of its type. I posted kinda early to set a different tone, but it didn't stick.
Such erudite debate on Capitol Hill producing divisive mudslinging by the citizenry under the banner House rejects gay marriage ban amendment shows the true nature and intent of this nation as it is currently led.
Meanwhile, innocents are just becoming reporters fodder as an insane war continues to grow in Beruit, Israel, Syria, and the region. The frightening aspect of this war is that it does not yet appear just how far geographically and politically it will expand. In all likelihood, it will become global in nature. Casualties mount on all sides, and are mainly non-combatants, and (sadly) not politicians.
The Bush administration's sleight of hand cannot mask the fact that he doesn't give a damn about any American; surprisingly enough, even though this time it concerns the welfare of American citizens who are the most part economically and racially more advantaged than those in New Orleans and its environs. One of the few legitimate functions of the federal government, as enumerated in the Constitution, is to provide for the common defense. That requirement applies to all citizens, whever they are on the face of the planet. The logical conclusion would lead one to believe that the government would provide the appropriate level of defense for any perceived threats. That would include evacuation from a danger zone when necessary. Again, as in the aftermath of Katrina, the Bush administration arrives on the scene a week late, and with flawed plans, and inadequate implementation.
Perhaps their next planned mission will be a relief expedition to rescue General Custer. It would have about the same timeliness and impact.
I can remember the time when warring factions around the world knew that Americans were off-limits, and the Marines would move Heaven and Hell to get them out of harm's way. None of this cruise ship to an island in the middle of nowhere melarchy!
Meanwhile, an increasingly irresponsible Republican Congress debates gay marriage bans and the like.
And our enlightened citizenry - well, this thread shows where our hearts are.
(pissed)
I see this thread has gone the way of the other muckraking pseudo-political threads of its type. I posted kinda early to set a different tone, but it didn't stick.
Such erudite debate on Capitol Hill producing divisive mudslinging by the citizenry under the banner House rejects gay marriage ban amendment shows the true nature and intent of this nation as it is currently led.
Meanwhile, innocents are just becoming reporters fodder as an insane war continues to grow in Beruit, Israel, Syria, and the region. The frightening aspect of this war is that it does not yet appear just how far geographically and politically it will expand. In all likelihood, it will become global in nature. Casualties mount on all sides, and are mainly non-combatants, and (sadly) not politicians.
The Bush administration's sleight of hand cannot mask the fact that he doesn't give a damn about any American; surprisingly enough, even though this time it concerns the welfare of American citizens who are the most part economically and racially more advantaged than those in New Orleans and its environs. One of the few legitimate functions of the federal government, as enumerated in the Constitution, is to provide for the common defense. That requirement applies to all citizens, whever they are on the face of the planet. The logical conclusion would lead one to believe that the government would provide the appropriate level of defense for any perceived threats. That would include evacuation from a danger zone when necessary. Again, as in the aftermath of Katrina, the Bush administration arrives on the scene a week late, and with flawed plans, and inadequate implementation.
Perhaps their next planned mission will be a relief expedition to rescue General Custer. It would have about the same timeliness and impact.
I can remember the time when warring factions around the world knew that Americans were off-limits, and the Marines would move Heaven and Hell to get them out of harm's way. None of this cruise ship to an island in the middle of nowhere melarchy!
Meanwhile, an increasingly irresponsible Republican Congress debates gay marriage bans and the like.
And our enlightened citizenry - well, this thread shows where our hearts are.
(pissed)
well said g-papi, this thread is retarded, I don't even know why i bothered to post here, its pointless arguing this topic while passing this ban does nothing good for the world. its amazing how govn't can focus on the subjects that are so not a priority while putting aside the important stuff.
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freekwonder said:
1killercls said:Meet our newest member... Uncle Tom.
Now you know who turned this thread down the wrong path! I wasnt even on here yet and they started in on me. LOL They must think about me all the time, I get that a lot.
And then you get the anti American only certain people have rights members chime in. They think because they are different they should get preference over all others.
And then there is lowest of all people, 1killercls! The guy that brags about being SOOO smart and educated. You know hes WORKING on his masters or something like that.
I ain't gonna hate on nobody. I just wish folks would grow up and spend energy on important things.
I'm growing weary of this rockets red glare, and bombs bursting in air American mentality. My God fellas, after 230 years, youda thunk we'da growed up a little.
btw - I got a little education too, but I ain't let it hinder my common sense none. (paraphrase of a quote attributed to Minnie Pearl)
I'm growing weary of this rockets red glare, and bombs bursting in air American mentality. My God fellas, after 230 years, youda thunk we'da growed up a little.
btw - I got a little education too, but I ain't let it hinder my common sense none. (paraphrase of a quote attributed to Minnie Pearl)
I think youre missing the point.
One, just because the U.S. is at war doesnt mean that every thing else stops. There are a lot of people in this country that do not feel the way you do and feel that this is a very important peace of business.
Two, this will help voters know the true intentions of the candidate come election time. At election time so many candidates say one thing but when they get elected change their minds. This will put a stop to that.
Three, I hope you dont have any family over in any part of the world that is fighting. But I have to say being a veteran I would not want to risk my life or the life of my fellow solders to save yours of you went to a foreign country KNOWING that their was fighting. This region has been fighting for decades and it will keep doing so until one side wins. At this point we as Americans need to stay out of it. If it escalates into innocent countries that have nothing to do with it, then we should do something.
One, just because the U.S. is at war doesnt mean that every thing else stops. There are a lot of people in this country that do not feel the way you do and feel that this is a very important peace of business.
Two, this will help voters know the true intentions of the candidate come election time. At election time so many candidates say one thing but when they get elected change their minds. This will put a stop to that.
Three, I hope you dont have any family over in any part of the world that is fighting. But I have to say being a veteran I would not want to risk my life or the life of my fellow solders to save yours of you went to a foreign country KNOWING that their was fighting. This region has been fighting for decades and it will keep doing so until one side wins. At this point we as Americans need to stay out of it. If it escalates into innocent countries that have nothing to do with it, then we should do something.
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actually when I wrote that i was NOT thinking of YOU personally it was a generaly comment about ALL christians I deal with on a daily bases. But Im glad you think I was. As for the rest of the thread eh. I've already been in two of them, and they didn't go any where. They usually were good discussions until a new person would make a bad remark, then it would go down hill. I was just having some fun. A LOT of people on this forum need to read my SIG.Hughes412 said:
I know I got off topic, but I just had to get my rant out. I promise not to be that far off in this thread again (after this).
Granted - Stem cell research has far reaching implications, both medically and morally. It is a topic that deserves debate and consideration.
Granted - Gay marriage/union has far reaching implications, legally, ethically, morally, and emotionally. Additionally, it has states rights implications, and that's a whole other ball of wax. It is a topic that deserves debate and consideration.
Ditto on all counts for the Right to life and Pro-choice debate.
But here's my rub.
It makes no sense to argue over choices of commode seats (vital items) when the damn house is ablaze.
I'm concerned when I feel the need to look twice when the MSNBC reporter says that the missle that just went over him produced an explosion that sounded different than all the others and produced a mushroom cloud. Especially when I suspect, as the whole world knows that Israel is nuclear-capable.
I'm concerned when I know that Iran, Russia, Syria, North Korea, and other nations around the world have interests in the area. (I bet Korean citizens are not in jeopardy.)
I'm concerned anywhere that bombs fall on children; more particularly concerned when I know that some of those same bombs were "Made in USA", as much of Israel's arms and equipment are.
I'm concerned when, as in the aftermath of Katrina, President Bush, who was vacationing in Texas at the time (and ducking Kathy Sheehan, or whatever her name is), went first to California to do some saber rattling on the deck of an aircraft carrier, and virtually forsook the thousands of Americans (the Preamble of whose Constitution calls for the nation to "provide for the common defense") and left them at the mercy - not of the hurricane, but its aftermath. Oh yeah, he did fly over and look down on his way back to Washington - as if it were some damned tourist attraction, like the Grand Canyon. (There's a canyon alright, - like between the ears, and in the heart.)
I'm concerned when I see a similar approach to Americans who have a legitimate right to be in any location on the planet to conduct business, vacation, or whatever. I bet that Koreans aren't leaving their citizens' fates to cruise ship lines. Oh, yeah, and charging people to "rescue" them, until the word got out on CNN.
I'm concerned when my son who is a Marine Sgt., and who has done two deployments to Iraq (without finding Osama) would proudly stand between any American citizen and the devil himself to provide for their defense. Yet to know that his Commander in Chief and his Administration have such little regard for us all, Oh yeah, I get the point alright.
My rant is over. My simple point iis this: First things First!
Granted - Stem cell research has far reaching implications, both medically and morally. It is a topic that deserves debate and consideration.
Granted - Gay marriage/union has far reaching implications, legally, ethically, morally, and emotionally. Additionally, it has states rights implications, and that's a whole other ball of wax. It is a topic that deserves debate and consideration.
Ditto on all counts for the Right to life and Pro-choice debate.
But here's my rub.
It makes no sense to argue over choices of commode seats (vital items) when the damn house is ablaze.
I'm concerned when I feel the need to look twice when the MSNBC reporter says that the missle that just went over him produced an explosion that sounded different than all the others and produced a mushroom cloud. Especially when I suspect, as the whole world knows that Israel is nuclear-capable.
I'm concerned when I know that Iran, Russia, Syria, North Korea, and other nations around the world have interests in the area. (I bet Korean citizens are not in jeopardy.)
I'm concerned anywhere that bombs fall on children; more particularly concerned when I know that some of those same bombs were "Made in USA", as much of Israel's arms and equipment are.
I'm concerned when, as in the aftermath of Katrina, President Bush, who was vacationing in Texas at the time (and ducking Kathy Sheehan, or whatever her name is), went first to California to do some saber rattling on the deck of an aircraft carrier, and virtually forsook the thousands of Americans (the Preamble of whose Constitution calls for the nation to "provide for the common defense") and left them at the mercy - not of the hurricane, but its aftermath. Oh yeah, he did fly over and look down on his way back to Washington - as if it were some damned tourist attraction, like the Grand Canyon. (There's a canyon alright, - like between the ears, and in the heart.)
I'm concerned when I see a similar approach to Americans who have a legitimate right to be in any location on the planet to conduct business, vacation, or whatever. I bet that Koreans aren't leaving their citizens' fates to cruise ship lines. Oh, yeah, and charging people to "rescue" them, until the word got out on CNN.
I'm concerned when my son who is a Marine Sgt., and who has done two deployments to Iraq (without finding Osama) would proudly stand between any American citizen and the devil himself to provide for their defense. Yet to know that his Commander in Chief and his Administration have such little regard for us all, Oh yeah, I get the point alright.
My rant is over. My simple point iis this: First things First!
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don't worry people are still scared of Marines (including people in this country and people in other services, Im proud of thatG-Papi said:
) but your right people would have more fear if policitians would let the Corp do its job and protect lifes (unless you are on the other side, then they will end your life). Semper Fi.G-Papi said:
There is no problem with rants. It's good to get it out.
I feel torn on the stem cell thing. Some of my faith see it as wrong, but I cant help but feel we need it.
We all know that reporters make things out to be far worst then they are.
I dont see why you are mad at our President over what is happening in Israel. As you might have heard we have our own war going and quite frankly dont have enough people to go help. And like I said before, why are you mad that he wont send people over there to help out. Yes you might have the RIGHT to go to a war zone, but if you get hurt dont come crying to us.
And dont get started on the Katrina. How can you feel sorry for the thousands of people that were told to leave but didnt do it? Why be mad at Bush and his people when you should be mad at the people on the State level. The Governor really messed up and no one is jumping on him! And dont get me started all of fraud that the great people of Katrina are doing. Here in Austin it was on the news that some were double dipping into the FMA money. Some were even claiming to be dead so the wives could collect the insurance money and they start a new life because all records were lost.
So dont try to sit here and blame just the Bush administration.
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Hughes412 said:
Yeah, umm, but it's really not that bad..
Did you see the guy last night trying to report?
I can't remember whether it was CNN or MSNBC. He ducked out of the picture a couple of times - you could see the flashes and the clouds. He tried to restart a couple of times, and I think, gave up.
I can't remember whether it was CNN or MSNBC. He ducked out of the picture a couple of times - you could see the flashes and the clouds. He tried to restart a couple of times, and I think, gave up.
