Difference between MP3 and MP5

[keyserscott]

Exactly,

MP5 130HP at the crank + intake/exhaust about 15HP at the crank=145HP

MP3 140HP at the crank

Not much difference but it's nice to know.

Flyin Protege Turbo or Spoolin Stage 1 Turbo 165HP at the wheels = close to 195HP at the crank

Start saving.

 

[JrTekSilverP5]

i knew is was more then just switchin the ecu

 

[crayz_d]

Re: Re: Difference?

And the specially tuned suspension (sway bars, struts, springs), the diffrent ecu, built in MP3 player, shorter shifter.....

BTW, the 10 HP is from the ECU and the exhaust. You'd be luvky to get 10 from intake and exhaust.

I would like to point out that I have that <b>"specially tuned suspension (sway bars, struts, springs)"</b> because the dealer put it on for me. It is all listed in my mods list below, just an FYI. So again, I have an MP3 with a 5th door as far as I am concerned. Peace.

 

[alec172]

Correct me if im wrong but Flying Protege compares the 2 software on an MP5 with a Turbo Kit. What about a stock engine?

I talked to a dealer and he's willing to do the job and charge only time but I have to find my own MP3 to come with me so he can download the S/W from him and upload it to mine. This, of course, is on the 2002 MP3 and MP5.

 

[1sty]

MP3s were 2001 only.

 

[alec172]

ure right. 2001 MP3 bought at the same time approx as 2002 MP5.

 

[sundevilMP5]

Correct me if im wrong but Flying Protege compares the 2 software on an MP5 with a Turbo Kit. What about a stock engine?

I talked to a dealer and he's willing to do the job and charge only time but I have to find my own MP3 to come with me so he can download the S/W from him and upload it to mine. This, of course, is on the 2002 MP3 and MP5.

look at the numbers for the stock mp3...they tested a bone stock mp3 with the different ECUs...it was mentioned by somebody earlier that the only reason that the mp3 gets 10hp more is because of the different ecu...so logically if you put a p5 ecu on an mp3 then you would have 10 less hp...but the difference is not even close to that

 

[alec172]

It's not entirely true. The MP3 has a slight advance of timming and the injection time is slightly longer. The 10 Hp difference is not entirely due to the ECU, the engine head as been shimmed a couple of milimeters shorter giving a higher compression ratio.

The MAZDA ECUs aren't EPROM, therefor u cannot change it's software. I it could, I would of swap s/w just for the kick of it but u need the new ECU. It's not worth it

 

[alec172]

atmospheric engines react very differently depending in weather conditions. Some post an average of dynoruns taken on different days, some just post the best/worse results they can. Im not saying that FP did there dyno testing wrong but Im not totally convinced

 

[1sty]

Interesting how no one from Fm or even spoolin has mentioned a higher compresion ratio.

 

[alec172]

dunno. Just saying if the head is slimmer, the compression must be higher.

 

[alec172]

1st MP3 in NH, u must know about that???? Did u check with your dealer? What did they told u? (the tech not the sales rep)

 

[1sty]

About the compression?
I was never told anything. Especialy since there isn't a Mazda Tech worth s*** within 100 miles of me.

1. A tech was convinced the ECu was in the pasanger Dash behind the A/C and took over an hour to get to.

2. Another concluded my ECU had no ground for just the IAC valve since they could't see ground with a multimeter when the car was on. Of coarse a multimeter can't read ground through that type of circuit when on.

3. A dealership told me they would diagnose an idle problem until I remove the turbo kit. Interesting to see what the legalities are on that one.

In short I know more about this car then the techs do around here.

But in all my conversations about the differences in the cars the compression ration had never been mentioned by anyone at all.

 

[alec172]

I feel your pain! I talked with at least 10 techs of different dealerships all around Montreal and beyoud to finally come upon one that knew what he talked about.
Iknow the MP5 has a ratio of 9.1:1 and I just tumbled across an article that claims the MP3 has 15.4:1 (hard to believe). U can view it at www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadtests/firstdrive/46530/article.html

 

[alec172]

Ill continue to look it up. 15.4:1 is almost unbelivable. Ill let u know if i find something.

 

[1sty]

Absolutely not. No way its that much different. It would be impossible for the car not to explode from a turbo at that compression.
I am very certain its the same 9.1:1 as all other proteges

the 15.4:1 is the steering ratio of the car not the compression!

 

[alec172]

u're right cause the msp has the same ratio as MP5.

 

[big_ben]

Here is the biggest difference between the MP3 and the P5. If your feelings are easily hurt, stop reading this now.

MP3=stylish sedan that was built to look good and handle like a $50,000 to $300,000 car.

P5=a wagon form of the protege that was meant for old men and women to drive. This is obvious because thats the the demographic that I always seeing drive the car.

Just telling you what I see going to work everyday.

 

[1sty]

Better hope Nuke doesn't see this

 

[chuyler1]

Here is the biggest difference between the MP3 and the P5. If your feelings are easily hurt, stop reading this now.

MP3=stylish sedan that was built to look good and handle like a $50,000 to $300,000 car.

P5=a wagon form of the protege that was meant for old men and women to drive. This is obvious because thats the the demographic that I always seeing drive the car.

Just telling you what I see going to work everyday.

Funny, the car was marketed toward young people between 20-30 who don't remember what hatchbacks were in the 70's...

...and that is all I see driving them where I am.

...and if you think it handles like a $50K car, you have yet to drive a $50K car.