BCBADBOY's MSP!!!

JrTekSilverP5

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02' TwoToned (Sliver/Black) MP5
is boosting 15LBS NOW!!! stock internals!!! WOW!!! that s*** is fast... he took me for a ride in it yesterday...
 
joe you need to throw some slicks on and get a faster time! ur putting out too much power to be running 14s. damn traction!
 
JDM Sam said:
joe you need to throw some slicks on and get a faster time! ur putting out too much power to be running 14s. damn traction!

That time was at 11 psi, the dyno was at 18-19.. Actually, that run would have been 13's if I had traction anyway :(.
Joe
 
What the hell (ok, here comes a vent)

How can these guys boost that high with stock internals and a turbo kit on a normal protege blows SO much lower??!! I know they have a different ECU and whatnot, but its just an fs-de! Does this mean that a normal protege with a turbo kit and one of the up and coming ECU's from perworks and terry will allow the fs-de to boost higher then previously still on stock internals??!!

Ok, vent is over


More boost to ya though, push as much as you can get away with!
Cheers,
Moose
 
mp3moose said:
What the hell (ok, here comes a vent)

How can these guys boost that high with stock internals and a turbo kit on a normal protege blows SO much lower??!! I know they have a different ECU and whatnot, but its just an fs-de! Does this mean that a normal protege with a turbo kit and one of the up and coming ECU's from perworks and terry will allow the fs-de to boost higher then previously still on stock internals??!!

Ok, vent is over


More boost to ya though, push as much as you can get away with!
Cheers,
Moose

1) larger turbos push more air at same PSI- so you can't really compare PSI to PSI- if there were a way to compare CFM, it would e more accurate.
2) the MSP ECU *supposedly* has less timing. If not, then it is still the smaller turbo moving less air not creating the same detonation issues at same psi.
3) I was running race fuel. Race fuel allows much higher boost without detonation.

Bottom line, it is not boost or HP that has killed so many motors- it is detonation and (lack of) tuning. Not saying nobody knows what they are doing, but the options are kind of limited so far (until at least Perfworks and I get the piggy back out :) ) and they don't have much to work with- coupled with not a whole lot of tuning experience. Unless you keep it at stock or close to configuration- any turbo car will blow up with improper tuning- whether it is a kit or factory.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the motor is all that strong, but weak motor plus poor tuning is just an accident waiting to happen.
Joe
 
unwrittenLaw said:


how will slicks mess up the tranny? just curious..

Slick alone wont- the extra traction will. If you don't "break" the tires free, you "break" the next weakest link :).
Joe
 
YellowBaggedP5 said:

lol it will never happen, but if it ever does let me know


no offense bagged but getr your facts straight. we have been having meets for the past 2 years. you know that. in fact, bcbadboy was at the latest on friday. as far as i know he enjoyed it very much. mike if you didn't, let me know and me, vlad and everybody else will work hard on improving the meets. 15 cars and people coming over saying how they have proteges and want to be in the club. you and jrtek have been invited many times, if you guys don't want to come over thats fine, but don't be misleading people that there are no meets in south florida. INSIDIOUS, register here groups.yahoo.com/group/intenseperformance
Vlad's phone number is 561-542-2023.
he is up in boca right by FAU
give him a call and he'll let you know what up.
 
Sheesh guys where have you been? we had a turnout of I think 15 pros last time. Join in!!!! Last friday of the month at the towers! :)
 
YellowMP5 said:
no offense bagged but getr your facts straight. we have been having meets for the past 2 years. you know that. in fact, bcbadboy was at the latest on friday. as far as i know he enjoyed it very much. mike if you didn't, let me know and me, vlad and everybody else will work hard on improving the meets. 15 cars and people coming over saying how they have proteges and want to be in the club. you and jrtek have been invited many times, if you guys don't want to come over thats fine, but don't be misleading people that there are no meets in south florida. INSIDIOUS, register here groups.yahoo.com/group/intenseperformance
Vlad's phone number is 561-542-2023.
he is up in boca right by FAU
give him a call and he'll let you know what up.
Yup.... i am with Dima 100%!


YellowBaggedP5 said:
lol it will never happen, but if it ever does let me know
BAGGED: We started out in September 2001 and i myself have even talked to you a few times when we used to hang out at the Miami Subs on University and Atlantic in Coral Springs.... back then you seemed not interested that a Mazda Club existed in South Florida... well now we have gotten quite big.... 20-25 local members and 53 people are registered on our messageboard.
On Friday 27th June (last Friday of the month always) we met at Tower shops... a few could not make it so 20 cars did not happen but 15 did..... and it was really great..... a lot of people showed interest and some had just found out that the club exists. Word is spreading fast. Hope to see you come out on July 25th......

InsidiousMSP said:
Cool stuff. :cool: We should have a South Florida meet.
Insidious: I see you are in Boca...... i may have talked to you once at the Lowes hangout in Boca or maybe Sample.....
You are more than welcome to join our messageboard and join the Intense Performance Mazda Club of South Florida.
Click the link and check out the info on the front page on the messageboard and let us know.

Talk to you all later,

Vlad



P.S. As Dima mentioned:
YellowMP5 said:
but don't be misleading people that there are no meets in south florida.
Please don't mislead people into thinking there are no meets nor a Mazda Club if you are not 100% sure of the facts. Any questions, please don't hesitate to call me or PM me..... I do not go around giving M-Unit a bad rep or telling people things about M-Unit that are false....
 
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YellowMP5 said:



no offense bagged but getr your facts straight. we have been having meets for the past 2 years. you know that. in fact, bcbadboy was at the latest on friday. as far as i know he enjoyed it very much. mike if you didn't, let me know and me, vlad and everybody else will work hard on improving the meets. 15 cars and people coming over saying how they have proteges and want to be in the club. you and jrtek have been invited many times, if you guys don't want to come over thats fine, but don't be misleading people that there are no meets in south florida. INSIDIOUS, register here groups.yahoo.com/group/intenseperformance
Vlad's phone number is 561-542-2023.
he is up in boca right by FAU
give him a call and he'll let you know what up.

Hi guys
I had fun that night. Everyone there were very cool and we spoke about alot of things.Not just about our cars but others also. I am looking forward to the next one so I can go and chill with you people again. I am not going to join Intenseperformace club, but I am there if you guys need help or info.I am a M-Unit member and thats all I am going to be in. I am not going to coment on anything that was said here cause i know Richard and Jason and they are cool also. Lets just all get along like one big happy Mazda Family(chair)
 
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