Yellow P5 Named In Street Racing Incident

SUX 2BU

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There has been a bad rash of stupid punnks street racing in urban areas with lots of traffic and pedestrian flow (in Richmond and Vancouver) in cars mommy and daddy paid for. Some are killing themselves, or their passengers, or the people they hit. I street race occassionaly (like once every few months) but never in an area with lots of traffic, etc. These kids just don't know how to drive and the fact that their friends are dying doesn't phase them.

Okay, I'm off my soapbox now. Anyway, the protege in that story is actually a yellow P5!! :eek: It was named as that on the news this morning but I've copied the whole story for viewing below.

WHEN WILL THESE PUNKS GET THE MESSAGE?????

Jeremy Sandler
Vancouver Sun


Thursday, March 07, 2002

Vancouver police are investigating whether street racing played a role in an accident in which a pedestrian was struck near 41st Avenue and Dunbar late Wednesday morning.

The woman, in her mid-70s, was hit after two cars that witnesses said were speeding westbound along 41st were involved in a collision.

Constable Wes Fung of the collision investigation unit told BCTV News on Global that the victim was attempting to jaywalk across 41st, east of Dunbar, when a yellow Mazda Protege and a silver Nissan Altima came speeding along. The Mazda braked because of the woman crossing the road, but the Nissan, which had changed into the centre lane behind the Mazda, did not have time to stop.

"He brakes, but it's too late," said Fung of the Nissan's driver, a man in his 20s. "[He] rear-ends the yellow Protege, knocking it into the pedestrian."

Fung said the drivers did not know each other, but police will investigate whether they were racing at the time of the collision.

"That's something that we're looking at."

University of B.C. student Watson Ng, the driver of the Mazda, spoke briefly with BCTV before talking to police.

"I was trying to stop, like stopping, and I come to a stop and then the car from the back banged into me," he said.

Avinesh Chand, a clerk at Stationery 2000 in the 3500-block of West 41st, saw much of the action that occurred outside the store.

"We heard this screeching sound and as I looked out, I saw this lady flying about 15-20 feet, falling from the air," he said. "Then I realized that she was hit by these cars."

The impact spun the Mazda around backwards and the woman ended up under a vehicle parked nearby.

"She was under a van, a white van that was parked over there," Chand said. "A half-dozen people tried to attend to that lady. We thought she was dead because of the way she was lying."

Emergency personnel arrived within minutes and the victim was taken to Vancouver Hospital with serious but non-life-threatening injuries.

Chand said the city needs to do something to make the street safer for pedestrians to cross, a point echoed by Dr. Brian Harris.

He works in a medical building next to the scene of the crash and said he's been after the city for two years to get a crosswalk or light installed in the area.

He said the large supermarket on the north side of the street and the doctors' offices and residences on the south side mean people want to cross, but it's several hundred metres to the traffic lights east and west of the collision site.

"There's so many elderly people coming across to the doctors' offices or having done so, to skip across and pick up a bottle of milk or something," Harris said.

"Now you can say they shouldn't be jaywalking, but who's going to go to the corner to cross the road either at Dunbar or Blenheim?"

The 70-year-old psychiatrist, who has worked in the area for 27 years, said a city official came to see him about his complaints, but went away saying a crossing would not be a high priority.

"The city refused to accept the fact that jaywalking is illegal but it's going to happen right here for sure," he said.

"It's just accidents waiting to happen and because this has been like a throughway to UBC, the cars don't even slow down, they treat it like a highway. You really have to have your wits about you to cross the road and elderly people don't have that capacity, that's the problem.

"It doesn't cost a lot of money to paint some white lines on a corner," he added. "It's just a tragedy. I feel so angry that this was a preventable accident."

Speeding has been cited as a factor in the deaths of two Lower Mainland youths within the past week.

Whitney Nghiem died and five passengers in her car were injured when Nghiem lost control while driving at more than 100 km/h at about 4 a.m. Sunday on Kingsway.

Early Monday morning, 18-year-old James Garratt of West Vancouver died in another accident police blamed on high speed.

Fung said charges are being considered in Wednesday's accident, but he expressed concern that the recent spate of high-profile traffic fatalities has not altered driving habits.

"Three days ago a young girl was killed and it was in the papers," he said.

"You'd think they would learn, but obviously they haven't, so something's going to be done and hopefully we'll come up with some strategies to deal with it."
 
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Racer 5 said:
just wondering ... Is there a large Asian population in Vancouver Area???

Uhhhh.....is that a serious question? If it is, I guess you've never been here. A joke that the honkeys (white guys) pass around is "What is the border between India and China? The Fraser River (which seperates Surrey that has a large East Indian population and Greater Vancouver which has a very large Asian population)"

So yeah, very large Asian population and HUGE amounts of rice, both white and Asian. It's sad ;)
 
veronica1132001 said:
ya know? all of these name that has been mentioned were asians


Yes they are and it's more than a coincedence that young Asian drivers are getting into major accidents from street racing. And it's not stoplight to stoplight racing, which doesn't really get you over 100 kmh. It's this friggin wind-it-out speeds they do down the streets. They watch the F&F way too much and think all their cars are IMSA racers on a road course. I know most imports don't get to 100 kmh very fast so maybe that's why they feel the need to race up to 180 or 200 kmh. I dunno, it does seem that Asians are into top speed and white guys are into acceleration. Just an observation.
 
I can vouch for the fact that it seems Chinese are more obsessed with top-speed than drag-racing. I myself am Chinese, and no, I'm not really hooked to it or anything (not a racer myself) but all my friends get so hyped out about a car's top speed, always ranting and raving about it. For example, one of my friend's followed me and didn't buy an Impreza 2.5RS because the speedometer's top speed only read 180km/h and my P5 read 220km/h. Well, I cant' remember any other particular incidents, but yeah, they're not really into stop-light races. Which is probably even more dangerous.

I hate the fact that people (well, at least in Toronto) seem to stereotype young Chinese males as careless and wreckless drivers. I always get looks from some of the Caucasian elderly (or even just middle-aged) people like I'm gonna run them down or something. Well, of course I'm not gonna say I NEVER speed, but I'm sure I'm a pretty safe driver.
 
hakushi no sakura said:
I can vouch for the fact that it seems Chinese are more obsessed with top-speed than drag-racing. I myself am Chinese, and no, I'm not really hooked to it or anything (not a racer myself) but all my friends get so hyped out about a car's top speed, always ranting and raving about it. For example, one of my friend's followed me and didn't buy an Impreza 2.5RS because the speedometer's top speed only read 180km/h and my P5 read 220km/h. Well, I cant' remember any other particular incidents, but yeah, they're not really into stop-light races. Which is probably even more dangerous.

I hate the fact that people (well, at least in Toronto) seem to stereotype young Chinese males as careless and wreckless drivers. I always get looks from some of the Caucasian elderly (or even just middle-aged) people like I'm gonna run them down or something. Well, of course I'm not gonna say I NEVER speed, but I'm sure I'm a pretty safe driver.

Hate to diss my own race, I'm Chinese as well, but I have also taken up the idea that Asians in certain large Asian communities enjoy illegal street racing. I've been to Toronto and Vancouver before to visit friends and I have to say Toronto is pretty bad with rice racers. I've been to San Francisco too, and I've seen both Asians and non-Asians drive like they own the Golden Gate Bridge....

Hey, but one thing I have to point out... they're all young kids, so they know no better at the age of <21!! Vancouver, by the way, is totally awesome place (planning on second trip soon for mountain biking)... loved it, loved it!!! Enjoyed Toronto enough to go back for seconds (it's been a while though), but just too cold for long term stays and what's up with the stores closing at 6pm (all year or during winters, I don't recall)?:confused:

I like driving fast, but only on highways... I don't think I'm good enough to avoid an old lady crossing the street while I'm going upwards of 80mph. If you think you can then you probably think you can sprout wings with your sports car too.
:rolleyes:
 
When i saw that yellow p5 with the hood open in the news yesterday, i thought that yellow p5 was there to help out the victims. Then, i realize how akward the p5's parking position is... Man, that is some stupid stupid driver, I spend all my $$ on my yellow p5 (with at), and some stupid kid just wasted a perfectly beautiful car. :mad: well, i guess the reason why some of these asian young drivers you are talking abut are driving recklessly is because that their parents are never here for them. To make up for their inability to take care of them (and teach them the correct driving senses), parents got their kids big houses, and expensive cars. Remember the white 330ci that got wasted late last month? His parents were not here. I personally think that education is the key to stop these.
 
I for one resent a lot of the things you guys are saying about the asian race period.... LambofSilence how can you sit there and say that the parents aren't here for us??? and to say that they don't take care of us??? What kind of people do you think we are??? I know a majority of asian parents in the United States that work hard as hell for their family so that their family can survive and make it in this world... Let alone maybe have nice things for themselves.... So who are you to say that you know how asian parents are??? Most asian parents in this world are strict as hell and have a lot of old fashioned morals to teach their children... and for sux 2 b u all of us asian people don't sit around and watch F&F all the time and think we're hardcore racers... The whole scene itself has blown up ever since that release and I have seen a hell of a lot more imports out and hearing all these stories about LiL Kids getting into accidents or killing themselves because they fixed up their honda with Mommy and Daddy's money.... Now sorry it seems I'm venting on you but before you go pointing any fingers I think you should watch how you phrase it.. As for my opinion I think there are a bunch of senseless spoiled brats out there all kinds of races usin moms and dads money to fix their cars up and drivin irresponsibly... As for the 2 Chinese guys I feel sorry for u... It's too bad you guys can't stick up for yourself let alone your own race.. I mean hey I admit that there are some asian peeple out there that do drive kinda crazy but you can't point fingers at a certain group... and the whole illegal street racing scene is not only shared by the asian race it's also shared by a whole lot of others and it's just as bad... Sorry I vented on you all but I had to speak my peace
 
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I'm not putting down my own race or anything, it's just the way other people look at young Asians, they think we're either in gangs or we're spoiled kids who endanger lives of others by racing. It was even on the news once, something about how the street racing scene was growing at an alarming rate because of Asians. I can't remember the quote exactly,but they did say it's because of Asians.

And about the parents not being strict thing, well, I don't know about the U.S.A., but here in Toronto (and I'll assume Vancouver), it's true that most kids don't have parents around here with them, or maybe just a single parent, especially in the newer suburbs. In the older parts of Toronto, most Chinese might be 2nd or 3rd generation whose parents live in Canada, but in Richmond Hill and Markham, many are just 1st generation Chinese whose parents are still in HK or whatever making big bucks and buying their kids 6000sq/ft houses and $50k cars. And I'm speaking from experience because I have several friends like this. It's not because their parents aren't strict, it's just that they're not here.

and yes it's bad to point figures at a whole group,and DEFINIETELY there are many Caucasians racing too, but sadly, the media is pointing fingers at us Asians. Look at that whole, uh, forgot his name, but that Asian guy in F&F. He taps into that whole rich, strict, gangster Asian stereotype. I HATE it.I don't even know anyone with parents liek that anymore
 
you stole my thunder, hakushi no sakura,;) I just want to add that I live in Vancouver, and the problem of parents not being here is true here in Vancouver for quite a while. I hate Asian being stereotyped as either gangsters or martial artists, or both in all hollywood movies. On the other hand, asians have always been associated with gangsters and spoiled kids (who crash and burn), its unfortunate. However, its kinda hard to disagree with these stereotypes when the only thing you read on newspaper related to asians are these negative things. So, i am sorry that i may have offended you, pro t j 5, but these are whats happening here in BC as Sux 2bu mentioned, and i meant to point that out. Oh, i am glad that you chose a white p5, we don't have that in BC yet, and we can only image what a white one looks like. hm....
 
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Hey sorry I came off as some pissed off lil bad ass... but I just hate it when asians get stereotyped as people we aren't... And I didn't know it was that bad up in Canada... It's true though all around about being stereotyped as being gangsters or having the knowledge of martial arts.... It kinda sucks but maybe someday we'll be able to break out of the mold... Like I said sorry I came off like a dick I just get a little defensive whenever the stereotype stuff comes up... Yeah I love the white P5 kinda sucks that you guys up in Canada don't have any...
 
no offence taken :), glad to see ppl actually care about this matter instead of being satisfied with those stupid stereotypes.

just checked with the dealership, the white ones are out there in Toronto already, still have to wait over here though.
 
Asians, Caucasions, etc...

Ummm...just a thought...aren't we all part of the same race? I mean, the human race. I, personally, don't consider myself as being from another race as the "Asians"...or the "East Indians"...come on guys/gals....

"WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG"....

;)

Ciao...

KOre
Caucasion P5 Owner
 
Re: Asians, Caucasions, etc...

can we sing We Are The World now??? :D :D :D

kore said:
Ummm...just a thought...aren't we all part of the same race? I mean, the human race. I, personally, don't consider myself as being from another race as the "Asians"...or the "East Indians"...come on guys/gals....

"WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG"....

;)

Ciao...

KOre
Caucasion P5 Owner
 
i was thinking something like...Kum Bye ya...

anyways time for me to put my two cents in...i think that all adolecent teens seem to have a knack for racing...doesn't matter what race or where you're from...it just sucks that the news seems to put more of the emphasis on azns...here in arizona the majority of the ricers are in fact "white"...it seems that all the time i'll be sitting there at a stop light and some punk with a wing the size of a park bench starts to rev me up...i look over and when the light turns green...i slowly drive off while he squeals the tires and takes off until the next light...anyways...i'd like to believe that it's mostly the fact that young people have a tendancy to "get their guns off"

kum bye ya my lord...kum bye ya!!
 
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