XEDE Engine Management System Available Soon!
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zoom-zoomhatch
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I imagine that's the boost he's got the turbo set at...
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neit_jnf said:
trust me, with these injectors its not going to be a problem
StephanieT
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Yes. There is alot of progress, but nothing that would be noticed by the end user. We are now 1 step away from PNP versus 4 steps.maestro said:
Stephanie
Hey Stephanie, I talked to Nutari about this. But would it be possible to update the BEGi website with the current and/or any updated maps for the MS3 XEDE? I know the units come with a basemap. But it would show better support for the product. I just received the updated base map yesterday from Nutari. And I would not of known about it if I didn't ask. Thanks...
StephanieT
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I am happy to e-mail maps as needed.
I have a dilemma when posting maps on the Internet. For people who cannot read and download the wrong map, are they going to come back and blame me when they have a problem? For other applications, what if they mix maps for different injectors? What if someone thinks they can put a MS6 map on a MS3? Yes, alot of what ifs. Yes, I over analyze. Would someone blow and engine? Probably not. But...
I could post a "dummy" map though.
Stephanie
I have a dilemma when posting maps on the Internet. For people who cannot read and download the wrong map, are they going to come back and blame me when they have a problem? For other applications, what if they mix maps for different injectors? What if someone thinks they can put a MS6 map on a MS3? Yes, alot of what ifs. Yes, I over analyze. Would someone blow and engine? Probably not. But...
I could post a "dummy" map though.
Stephanie
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i would be willing to host the maps on my site as long as BEGi does not consider that to be a problem
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when it becomes plug and play there will be a big announcement, i guarantee you that. its not a walk in the park to make any engine management system plug and play, otherwise alot more companies would have pulled it off for alot more cars right now. there are alot of hoops, some international, to jump through to get the parts needed to do this.
keep in mind, the system will cost more once it goes plug and play. i can't imagine the harnesses will be marked up, but they will add to the final price of the system.
keep in mind, the system will cost more once it goes plug and play. i can't imagine the harnesses will be marked up, but they will add to the final price of the system.
desperado-c
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StephanieT said:I am happy to e-mail maps as needed.
I have a dilemma when posting maps on the Internet. For people who cannot read and download the wrong map, are they going to come back and blame me when they have a problem? For other applications, what if they mix maps for different injectors? What if someone thinks they can put a MS6 map on a MS3? Yes, alot of what ifs. Yes, I over analyze. Would someone blow and engine? Probably not. But...
I could post a "dummy" map though.
Stephanie
Maybe someone could set BEGI up with a system that only allows access to the maps after you agree to a big disclaimer. Kind of like when you install software updates except with really big ALLCAPS statements about being COMPLETELY responsible for how you choose to install the maps, not done in reliance on anybody's else's advice or expertise, provided free of charge, etc.?
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nondual said:
its not that cut and dry. its been beaten to death, but side by comparisons to what an Accessport system is capable of compared to a Vishnu based XEDE system is capable of, the XEDE is clearly a more capable unit with more inherent features and user expandability. if every engine management system were identical in ability, then the cheapest one would always be the best.
mafanchai said:
CP-E's system is not at this point plug and play, they posted as such. until we see or have a CP-E system in our hands to make direct comparisons i can't say how it would stack up against an XEDE. i can call COBB (done) and go over the Accessport's list of features (done) and make a direct comparison.
don't think you're getting a complete tuning solution with the Cobb at 700 dollars. the ability to tune it yourself is a feature you have to pay extra for that costs at least another 200 dollars. plus it makes hard writes to the stock ECU and ECU history, which even if you remove the unit, a dealership will find if they want to look to for it - even if the stock map is put back on there. This is according to Cobb and Mazda, not my own fanboyish sales mentality
Captain KRM P5 said:its not that cut and dry. its been beaten to death, but side by comparisons to what an Accessport system is capable of compared to a Vishnu based XEDE system is capable of, the XEDE is clearly a more capable unit with more inherent features and user expandability. if every engine management system were identical in ability, then the cheapest one would always be the best.
CP-E's system is not at this point plug and play, they posted as such. until we see or have a CP-E system in our hands to make direct comparisons i can't say how it would stack up against an XEDE. i can call COBB (done) and go over the Accessport's list of features (done) and make a direct comparison.
don't think you're getting a complete tuning solution with the Cobb at 700 dollars. the ability to tune it yourself is a feature you have to pay extra for that costs at least another 200 dollars. plus it makes hard writes to the stock ECU and ECU history, which even if you remove the unit, a dealership will find if they want to look to for it - even if the stock map is put back on there. This is according to Cobb and Mazda, not my own fanboyish sales mentality
All very good points...My bag is if I plug the cheaper thing in and it makes more HP then I am happy. I don't have the time/desire to really mess with it. Click, click 40/50hp more. Thanks very much have a good day. Sure a more involved tuning solution sounds great but.....
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II-Savy said:
sure i understand that - the benefit of having more than one EMS option for a car is that different people with different goals can all be accomodated. that said, and not to stray too far off topic, we have two other EMS options for these cars in the works - one much cheaper and more basic and one much more involved than anything presently on the market or currently in the works and more expensive. no one thing is the be-all end-all option, but what i am trying to say is that - feature for feature for the systems brought up thus far - the XEDE is a better bargain. its easy to say "cobb is cheaper and does the exact same stuff" but thats a statement that is factually untrue and i want to dispel that myth, because its misleading to the general consumer on an information level. as an enthusiast first and foremost, i am all for different options, especially since traditonally speaking, the mazda market has gotten the shaft on things like this!
