WRX Wagon vs moded P5
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Familia323
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visual aspects are relative, WRX's have more potential for less money, but quick proteges are unique and fun to drive.
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Lord_Zath said:
eek - got 20,000 bux
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the fact that this question was even asked in a P5 forum shows how little you want the WRX. Why would you come on a P5 forum and ask opinions about it and another car. 
just gay man. so stupid and such a waist of time.
well i'll just add my .02 for fun, since the suby is getting no love and i guess i just like to be flamed......since i used to have and MSP and now have a WRX Wagon i can speak on the subject just a little.
first off the insurance on the wagon is going to be more than the p5 duh! the wagon is in a much higher class. however i actually pay less in insurance on the wagon than i did for the MSP...probably because the wagon and the AWD.
2nd AWD owns!! i don't need to say more about that.
the p5 does not have a better/tighter suspension than the wrx. that's just silly. my susp is stock and i'd be happy to take any p5 on in a challenge.
i don't know how much you all paid for your p5s out the door but pound for pound the wrx owns in the price dept. i paid 23k otd for a brand new 05 wagon in november of 04. short throw, compas and diming miror, arm rest ext, 6 disc changer, boost guage, and a few other things were all included. plus much nicer seats to boot.
i get far greater support from suby than i ever did from mazda. :flip: mazda!
as for unique...well they are both wagons so they cary some unique factor. however there are more modded p5s in the mags than there are wrx wagons.
don't get me wrong i think the p5 can be pimp. i loved the Pirana mobile. but just slaping a turbo on a p5 will not make you faster or better than a wrx. plus it takes very little to make a wrx faster.
i ran with a porsche 911 ( non turbo 325bhp) through 4th and was with him all the way. past 4th is another story(nervous)
well i just tossed all this in for fun and argument sake. i could go on with more but i'll leave it at that. the wrx wagon owns the p5. there that should do it (flame2)
peace!
just gay man. so stupid and such a waist of time. well i'll just add my .02 for fun, since the suby is getting no love and i guess i just like to be flamed......since i used to have and MSP and now have a WRX Wagon i can speak on the subject just a little.
first off the insurance on the wagon is going to be more than the p5 duh! the wagon is in a much higher class. however i actually pay less in insurance on the wagon than i did for the MSP...probably because the wagon and the AWD.
2nd AWD owns!! i don't need to say more about that.
the p5 does not have a better/tighter suspension than the wrx. that's just silly. my susp is stock and i'd be happy to take any p5 on in a challenge.
i don't know how much you all paid for your p5s out the door but pound for pound the wrx owns in the price dept. i paid 23k otd for a brand new 05 wagon in november of 04. short throw, compas and diming miror, arm rest ext, 6 disc changer, boost guage, and a few other things were all included. plus much nicer seats to boot.
i get far greater support from suby than i ever did from mazda. :flip: mazda!
as for unique...well they are both wagons so they cary some unique factor. however there are more modded p5s in the mags than there are wrx wagons.
don't get me wrong i think the p5 can be pimp. i loved the Pirana mobile. but just slaping a turbo on a p5 will not make you faster or better than a wrx. plus it takes very little to make a wrx faster.
i ran with a porsche 911 ( non turbo 325bhp) through 4th and was with him all the way. past 4th is another story(nervous)
well i just tossed all this in for fun and argument sake. i could go on with more but i'll leave it at that. the wrx wagon owns the p5. there that should do it (flame2)
peace!
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otmsp said:
what?? what??
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I was waiting for you to get on here matt.
I think it's time for you and Ahmad to race
I'm going to have to disagree with you about there being more modded P5s than WRX wagons. Maybe here in Dallas since you hang with the mazda crew, but I doubt nation wide it's even close.
back on topic:
A) Who would win flat out 1/4 mile
Turboed P5 with a proper set up could take a stock wrx wagon
B) Better Car (value)
We all know a stock car retains a higher value than even a lightly modded one, and you would have to do some heavy modding to get a P5 to beat a wrx in the 1/4 mile.
C) Better Car (mechanical)
I think the WRX would still be a better mechanical car becasue it is functioning within it's normal limits. For the P5 it'd be operating at +200% of it's original limitations after all the modifications. This just leads to increased wear and chance of damage. That's why we all say "You've got to pay to play."
I'd say the modded P5 would make a better show car and race car than a stock WRX wagon, but there's no way a daily driven one would come close in reliability.
Plus you'd be getting somewhat close to maxing out the P5's power potential just to reach the starting point of the WRX.
I think it's time for you and Ahmad to race
I'm going to have to disagree with you about there being more modded P5s than WRX wagons. Maybe here in Dallas since you hang with the mazda crew, but I doubt nation wide it's even close.
back on topic:
A) Who would win flat out 1/4 mile
Turboed P5 with a proper set up could take a stock wrx wagon
B) Better Car (value)
We all know a stock car retains a higher value than even a lightly modded one, and you would have to do some heavy modding to get a P5 to beat a wrx in the 1/4 mile.
C) Better Car (mechanical)
I think the WRX would still be a better mechanical car becasue it is functioning within it's normal limits. For the P5 it'd be operating at +200% of it's original limitations after all the modifications. This just leads to increased wear and chance of damage. That's why we all say "You've got to pay to play."
I'd say the modded P5 would make a better show car and race car than a stock WRX wagon, but there's no way a daily driven one would come close in reliability.
Plus you'd be getting somewhat close to maxing out the P5's power potential just to reach the starting point of the WRX.
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Familia323
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just out of curiosity, what does a stock WRX(wagon/sedan) do in the 1/4 mile stock?
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^^ high 14s to mid 15s
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TX Speed Demon said:I was waiting for you to get on here matt.
I think it's time for you and Ahmad to race
I'm going to have to disagree with you about there being more modded P5s than WRX wagons. Maybe here in Dallas since you hang with the mazda crew, but I doubt nation wide it's even close.
back on topic:
A) Who would win flat out 1/4 mile
Turboed P5 with a proper set up could take a stock wrx wagon
B) Better Car (value)
We all know a stock car retains a higher value than even a lightly modded one, and you would have to do some heavy modding to get a P5 to beat a wrx in the 1/4 mile.
C) Better Car (mechanical)
I think the WRX would still be a better mechanical car becasue it is functioning within it's normal limits. For the P5 it'd be operating at +200% of it's original limitations after all the modifications. This just leads to increased wear and chance of damage. That's why we all say "You've got to pay to play."
I'd say the modded P5 would make a better show car and race car than a stock WRX wagon, but there's no way a daily driven one would come close in reliability.
Plus you'd be getting somewhat close to maxing out the P5's power potential just to reach the starting point of the WRX.
well you knew i had to Jason...
A) key word there is "proper setup"
B) wrx's hold better resale, wholesale, and trade in value than the p5 stock according to most car pricing sites (edmonds, kbb, nanda, black book, etc...)for stock....modded is a diff story. just depends on the car.
C)the wrx ecu has been touted as one of the best factory ecu's in the sport comact world. subaru has been given tons of credit from consumer reports and other such mags for it's engineering and reliability.
Jason, as for the comment about the p5 being more in the mags i feel is true. i have 3 issues of PAS mag and there are several p5s in it. not one wrx wagon. i have several IT mags and SS mags that have more p5s in them. I only have seen 3 wrx wagons being featured. the wrx wagon is just now catching on (which is a bummer...i wanted to stay unique)
I personally have seen several p5s in mags and shows. I have seen very few wrx wagons. had it not been for the WRB wagon that did the STI swap there would probably still not be many. but that motivated people to jump on the "wagon" get it hehe
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Natey said:
I'll save him the trouble. Got 67k miles on a 02 P5 and an 02 WRX.
My wife normally drives the P5, but its had a misfire problem lately so I've been driving it alot.
The P5 is much more nimble out of the box. Especially at low speeds. But there is alot more body roll in a P5 than a 02 WRX. A couple of months ago I put MSP struts and springs on the P5 and its made a world of difference in the handling.
Brakes on the P5 are far and away better. Our P5 does not have anitlocks, but the pedal feel is SOOOO much better than the spongy WRX. Both cards have SS lines, Axxis Ultimate pads. Antilocks on the WRX are horrible. They engage if you hit any kind of bump under braking. Seriously, a manhole cover will trigger the antilocks. Makes for some soiled shorts every so often!
Aside from a new clutch, flywheel and throwout bearing at 35k on the WRX (under warranty) and the P5's misfire problem, both cars have held up really well. No repairs outside the normal stuff. No odd rattling noises or anything (/knock on wood).
BTW, I cry foul on this comparison simply due to the idea that you'd be giving up at least some of the Mazda warranty with the mods it would take to make it WRX-quick. A better comparison might be the MSP against the WRX.
I drove CusomMSPs ride once. I hated my WRX for about a month afterwards!
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