Wow Worst Case Of bad Luck!!

[thabigo]

Just went on a test Drive in city and highway. I Notice a noise coming from the Right Rear wheel of the car. Seemed to be more noticeable when I was going 45mph+. Kind of like a weird Vibration noise. So something is definitely wrong. I also noticed that the car doesn't handle like before. I am taking it in to the Mazda Dealer tomorrow to get it checked out.

This probably happened from either the Towing or when I hit the Curb or Both.

Also I spoke to my friend that saw my car getting towed and he tired to remember how my car was getting towed. He said that the rear was in the air and the front was on the ground. But he wasn't 100% sure if he saw my front tries moving or not. (Meaning he's not sure if he saw the front on a Dolly).

This sucks....

Thanks,

Orlando

 

[flyrevs]

where can i get some Steelies and what is the Best Size for Winter??

I got a set of 17" Ford Fusion rims for $250 on Ebay than spent $390 for 215x50x17 Kuhmos they are awsome in the snow and handle great on dry pavement. I was gonna get steelies, but for the same $$$ I got some way better rims - that won't rust. Of course this is the Speed3 and you have the Speed6 but the tire size is the same I think.

 

[Elicious]

Also I spoke to my friend that saw my car getting towed and he tired to remember how my car was getting towed. He said that the rear was in the air and the front was on the ground. But he wasn't 100% sure if he saw my front tries moving or not. (Meaning he's not sure if he saw the front on a Dolly).

This sucks....

Thanks,

Orlando

Tell the dealer you think your car may have been towed with the front wheels rolling on the ground and that it may have been damaged. Maybe they can check it out for you. I really don't know enough about what kind of damage can occur, I only know that you're not supposed to tow these cars with the wheels rolling cuz of the AWD. If they did in fact damage your car, it will be time to ask the towing company to pay for repairs.

 

[thabigo]

But if the car is under warranty wouldn't the repairs be free??

 

[flyrevs]

But if the car is under warranty wouldn't the repairs be free??

No not covered under warranty, Mazda won't pay for someone else damaging your car!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Foolish]

Oh, and if the towing company damaged your car, it's not going to be fixed under warrenty. That's not what warrenties are for. Likewise, if your car was damaged in the curb impact, that's also not what warrenties are for, that's what insurance is for. Of course, if you slid the car into a curb, and you claim the damage on your insurance, they'll pay for the repair (minus your deductible) and **** you on your rates for the next 5-ish years!

Sorry 'bout the bad news, I just didn't want you going into your dealership and getting all steamed at them because you don't seem to know what warrenties are for. (They cover manufacturer defects, BTW, that's what they are for!)

 

[Boosted24]

yea those potenzas are crap in the snow I've had my speed 6 for about 4 months and already had to replace 2 tires really mad

 

[Inferno]

Orlando,

My guess is that the vibration coming from your rear wheel is the result of your curb knock, which probably messed up your alignment, damaged the tire and/or thrown off the balance of the rim. Make sure your dealer or, better yet, a reputable tire or alignment shop inspects it closely.

 

[Newf]

man, the bad luck continues eh. Sorry to hear it. It could certainly be alignment, but how hard did you hit that curb?

we have all had days like this, hang in there.

And Flyrev, those focus rims actually look pretty good! Heck of a lot better then steelies.

 

[thabigo]

Well i just came back from the dealership, turns out the Rim is bent and for now they have to order a new one. From there they can do most test to see if anything else is wrong with the car, as far as the rear end being off or something. Turns out instead of going directly to my Service manager i should of gone to my salesman who sold me the car. He said he would of helped me out and made up some stuff like "i was driving my car and all of a sudden i started to hear a vibration". And if they asked about the scratch on the rim then i could of mention that I did that early went i was backing up.

Instead i told them kinda the truth, that the vehicle lost control and the car slid into a curb.

Thanks,

Orlando

 

[thabigo]

Well i just came back from the dealership, turns out the Rim is bent and for now they have to order a new one. From there they can do more test to see if anything else is wrong with the car, as far as the rear end being off or something. Turns out instead of going directly to my Service manager i should of gone to my salesman who sold me the car. He said he would of helped me out and made up some stuff like "i was driving my car and all of a sudden i started to hear a vibration". And if they asked about the scratch on the rim then i could of mention that I did that 2 days later after i bought the car when i was backing up.

Instead i told them kinda the truth, that the vehicle lost control due to the bad tires on the snow and the car slid into a curb. Since it was an accideant then it will have to go under my insurance. Does anyone know for a fact if this is true or if i do go with my insurance will the rate go up?? (I don't think it should since it was due to the snow).

Thanks,

Orlando

 

[Inferno]

If I was you, I would avoid making a claim through insurance and just pay the whole thing out of pocket (if you can).

You insurance company WILL jack up your rates and **** you for the next few years over any claim, regardless of whether it was a single-car incident that occured in the snow.

Bite the bullet, take the pain and move on.

 

[thabigo]

screw that we are taking it up with mazda or the dealership. Ill keep you guys posted to let you know what happens.

 

[psi365]

First off it says directly on the window sticker "Mazdaspeed6 unique 18inch alloy wheels with 215/45/18 High Performance Summer Tires."

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/vlPrintVehicle.action?vtype=NEW
under exterior

That alone takes all responsiblity off the dealership and Mazda. I am also sure under a section in your owners manual something titled "winter driving" they state something along the lines of the car from the factory is equiped with summer performance tires and in snow you will need to purchase snow or all season tires.

As far as towing the dealership can check to see if there are any faults in the awd system. If there aren't any, but later down the road you experience problems contact the towing company now and say that you had a friend that positively saw your car being towed without a flatbed or a dolly(even if your friend isn't sure). This way it is documented that you made contact with the tow company and told them that you have a witness that saw your car towed improperly so if you do experience awd problems down the road and warranty doesn't cover it, the tow company will be paying for it.

As stated before warranty covers manufacturers defects. It doesn't cover customer damage, nor outside damage to the car.

As for your bent wheel see how badly bent your wheel is. I know if it isn't that bad we send wheels out to be repaired which is almost always cheaper then a new one.

Sorry if I sound harsh, but I hear complaints like this all the time cause someone didn't take the time to do their research or read their owners manual and start blaming everyone other themselves when something goes wrong.

 

[Elicious]

screw that we are taking it up with mazda or the dealership. Ill keep you guys posted to let you know what happens.

Mazda or the dealership will not repair your car. The might check to see if any damage was done during towing but that's all you're gonna get from them.

 

[MS6S2K]

I mentioned to the dealership that I couldn't buy this car with the tires it came with, since it's my daily winter commuter, and they cut me a check for $500 towards new tires, and I sold the summer tires on ebay.

I simply do not agree with Mazda's choice to put summer tires on an AWD luxury sports sedan. It just doesn't fit with the war this car drives, and the luxury it still maintained with the upgraded performance over the regular 6. It was totally marketed wrong, as it's more of an all around car, then an actual enthusiast vehicle. It's just not the type of car IMO that should have summer tires, because you are not gonna find many consumers who buy this car as a fun/weekend car for seasonal use. It's an AWD 4 door luxury sports sedan meant to be driven in all weather, and used daily.

I did not notice much of a downgrade in handling when I put a set of Pirelli Nero M+S tires on. The car is actually very good in the snow, and superb in rain. For cars like the STI, and EVO, I can see why it comes with summer tires, but the Speed 6? Definitely an error there, but they were trying to market it for pure enthusiasts, thus the failure in the market place, and the insane privces, which I am most certainy not complaining about.

Get a set of good high performance all seasons, and your bad weather problem is solved, and you will not lose much in handling, and you'll get a boatload more life out of your tires.

 

[terbow]

I beleive this only applies if your state is a 'no ransom' state. In other words, they cant take away your primary mode of transportation over a towing fee. I dont know how to tell if a state is 'no ransom' or not, but its best to find out before getting the law involved incase it doesnt apply in all states.

Never let a towing company blackmale you for your car again.. By LAW they have to give it to you with no charge. If they don't, call the cops. Been through this before...they have NO RIGHT to hold your property hostage. Thank goodness a lawyer friend of mine was with me when it got towed once.

 

[Kansei]

I mentioned to the dealership that I couldn't buy this car with the tires it came with, since it's my daily winter commuter, and they cut me a check for $500 towards new tires, and I sold the summer tires on ebay.

I simply do not agree with Mazda's choice to put summer tires on an AWD luxury sports sedan. It just doesn't fit with the war this car drives, and the luxury it still maintained with the upgraded performance over the regular 6. It was totally marketed wrong, as it's more of an all around car, then an actual enthusiast vehicle. It's just not the type of car IMO that should have summer tires, because you are not gonna find many consumers who buy this car as a fun/weekend car for seasonal use. It's an AWD 4 door luxury sports sedan meant to be driven in all weather, and used daily.

I did not notice much of a downgrade in handling when I put a set of Pirelli Nero M+S tires on. The car is actually very good in the snow, and superb in rain. For cars like the STI, and EVO, I can see why it comes with summer tires, but the Speed 6? Definitely an error there, but they were trying to market it for pure enthusiasts, thus the failure in the market place, and the insane privces, which I am most certainy not complaining about.

Get a set of good high performance all seasons, and your bad weather problem is solved, and you will not lose much in handling, and you'll get a boatload more life out of your tires.

It's a "Mazdaspeed".. it's an enthusiast car whether or not it has luxury. Notice that the one 2.3DISI car that didn't get ultra high performance summer tires is the only one that wasn't a "Mazdaspeed".. the CX-7.

That being said it would be cool if there was an AWD Mazda6 aside from the Mazdaspeed model, but it would be the world's slowest car with 158ish HP from the 2.3 and an AWD system coupled to it.

 

[Foolish]

screw that we are taking it up with mazda or the dealership.

Taking what up? I hate to break this to you, but you ****** up and slid your car into a curb. That's not the dealership's/Mazda's fault, and they're not obligated to do anything to help you out. Grow up and take responsibility for your own mistakes. You might as well threaten to sue the state you live in for not making more wheel-friendly curbs!

If you can't pay for repairs out of pocket, that's what insurance is for, but in a single-car accident, you'll be making a collision claim, and in most cases the insurance company is going to raise your rates. So, pay for it now, or pay for it later, you screwed up and no one else is going to fix it for you.

Good luck getting your car fixed. If the dealership covers one penny of your repairs I'll lose even more of my faith in humanity.

 

[psi365]

I mentioned to the dealership that I couldn't buy this car with the tires it came with, since it's my daily winter commuter, and they cut me a check for $500 towards new tires, and I sold the summer tires on ebay.

I simply do not agree with Mazda's choice to put summer tires on an AWD luxury sports sedan. It just doesn't fit with the war this car drives, and the luxury it still maintained with the upgraded performance over the regular 6. It was totally marketed wrong, as it's more of an all around car, then an actual enthusiast vehicle. It's just not the type of car IMO that should have summer tires, because you are not gonna find many consumers who buy this car as a fun/weekend car for seasonal use. It's an AWD 4 door luxury sports sedan meant to be driven in all weather, and used daily.

I did not notice much of a downgrade in handling when I put a set of Pirelli Nero M+S tires on. The car is actually very good in the snow, and superb in rain. For cars like the STI, and EVO, I can see why it comes with summer tires, but the Speed 6? Definitely an error there, but they were trying to market it for pure enthusiasts, thus the failure in the market place, and the insane privces, which I am most certainy not complaining about.

Get a set of good high performance all seasons, and your bad weather problem is solved, and you will not lose much in handling, and you'll get a boatload more life out of your tires.

I don't agree with any of this statement. The name alone states it to be more of an enthusiast car then a luxury car. Mazdaspeed6. It isn't marketed as a luxury car. It is marketed as a sports sedan though. Just because it is awd also doesn't mean it is meant to be the ultimate snow car either.

Again I don't believe in "performance" all season tires. There are to many concessions that have to be made to try to make a tire all around descent for all seasons. Add to that being high performance and a high speed rate and something is going to be given up. I would have taken that $500 and put down a good chunk of money down on a set of dedicated snow tires and wheels. That way you have the absolute best possible tire for snow conditions (minus studded tires).