Wideband

[Fede_italiano]

Guys,

Can you install a wideband on the original exhaust?
Does it go in the midpipe or downpipe?

Is there one that goes belo 11 AFR?

 

[Fede_italiano]

Guys,

Can you install a wideband on the original exhaust?
Does it go in the midpipe or downpipe?

Is there one that goes belo 11 AFR?

What do you guys think about this?

http://www.zeitronix.com/

Is it junk?

So I can have only one thing for boost, AFR and no need to get a POD.

 

[Blue_Speed]

when reading the directions for my innovate xd-1/lc-1 kit. it says for turbo application when there is a cat present to place the o2 bung before the exhaust enters the cat.

 

[Moeed]

What do you guys think about this?

http://www.zeitronix.com/

Is it junk?

So I can have only one thing for boost, AFR and no need to get a POD.

Hell no it aint junk. I got one. Its the best bang for buck, and that lcd screen in person....

 

[Mr. Win]

what moheed said.

 

[Moeed]

Its late.

The directions for the zeitronix tell you exactly how to place and orient the O2 sensor. Thank God they switched to the cheaper O2 sensor. If you do go with zeitronix, be sure to get all the extras. In fact they got a holiday sale. Its worth it.

 

[Fede_italiano]

Its late.

The directions for the zeitronix tell you exactly how to place and orient the O2 sensor. Thank God they switched to the cheaper O2 sensor. If you do go with zeitronix, be sure to get all the extras. In fact they got a holiday sale. Its worth it.

What kind of functions are you talking about?
EGR, AFR, boost...

how do you read your boost?
Can you put an o2 sensor in stock exhaust?

Thanks

 

[livelyjay]

You can install it on the stock exhaust, and you don't need to have a new bung welded on. If you look at your J-pipe, there is a large bolt in the pipe. It's there because Mazda used the same J-pipe and cat that the original Protege uses, and that's where the 2nd O2 goes in the original Protege. It's where I installed my Zietronix before I got my Vibrant exhaust.

 

[Rainman]

The Zeitronix WB rocks. I have it installed on our MSP and I have not had any problems with it all. It does a great job and is accurate to below 9 AFR. In addition, the boost sensor that comes with the Zeitronix is way more accurate than my Autometer boost guage, as is the Zeitronix EGR thermocouple. The LCD display is the s*** too. I just gotta figure out a way to install it so that it looks OEM. Right now it sits in the glove box until I need it. Then I just put it in the passenger seat...LOL!

R

 

[Moeed]

I took double sided tape and taped the lcd above the steering wheel column.

Fede - ya its got all the sensors to allow you to read all that good stuff. The map sensor it comes with is a 3.5 bar sensor that is very accurate. My Autometer would only show 5 pounds, when really I am at 6.3 pounds of boost.

 

[Fede_italiano]

I took double sided tape and taped the lcd above the steering wheel column.

Fede - ya its got all the sensors to allow you to read all that good stuff. The map sensor it comes with is a 3.5 bar sensor that is very accurate. My Autometer would only show 5 pounds, when really I am at 6.3 pounds of boost.

Guys,
I understood how to run the AFR sensor.
How did you install the boost sensor? What did you splice?
Any pics?Thanks a lot for the info and if this thing does boost and AFR and it is easy I will buy it.
I do not like gauges.

 

[livelyjay]

Guys,
I understood how to run the AFR sensor.
How did you install the boost sensor? What did you splice?
Any pics?Thanks a lot for the info and if this thing does boost and AFR and it is easy I will buy it.
I do not like gauges.

Well if you don't like guages, then the LCD screen will be a great alternative, plus they now have it in an all black casing. Installation is pretty easy as well, and there is a write up/how-to on this forum how to do it and which wires to tap into. It took me about an hour to install.

As for the boost hose to tap, just look for the how-to on the boost gauge installation. I might buy that MAP sensor from them if they are running a holiday special.

Nevermind, their holiday special is only on the full package. I might just go with this on ebay.

 

[Fede_italiano]

Well if you don't like guages, then the LCD screen will be a great alternative, plus they now have it in an all black casing. Installation is pretty easy as well, and there is a write up/how-to on this forum how to do it and which wires to tap into. It took me about an hour to install.

As for the boost hose to tap, just look for the how-to on the boost gauge installation. I might buy that MAP sensor from them if they are running a holiday special.

Nevermind, their holiday special is only on the full package. I might just go with this on ebay.

So you can use the regular vacuum lines from the minifold and connect them to the unit?
I tought I needed a MAP sensor installed somewhere.
I saw the how to but I tought this unit needed something differente due to the MAP sesnor.
If not, I will go with Zeitronix.
Thanks guys

 

[Moeed]

Fede,

yes, you connect a vac line to a sensor, and then you connect a wire to the unit. It will then datalog and show that reading on the software and lcd screen.

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[livelyjay]

What he said. There is a link to the map sensor on ebay in my last post. I'm thinking I'm going to try this with a less accurate and cheaper map sensor. I'm talking with TurfBurn right now to get his opinion on logging with the less accurate map sensor. I only need precision down to the .5 psi, so I don't need a sensor that NASA uses (as advertised by Zeitronix).

 

[livelyjay]

So you can use the regular vacuum lines from the minifold and connect them to the unit?

As it comes from Zeitronix, you don't need to hook up any vacuum lines. If you want to log boost (the only reason you would need to hook up vacuum lines) you will need the map sensor. The map sensor reads the boost from your vac line, then sends a 0-5 volt signal to the Zeitronix box. If you don't want to log boost, then there's no need for the map sensor.

I have a vac source going from my manifold to my boost gauge, that is teed and runs into my AFC, then I'll tee that and hook up the map sensor.

 

[livelyjay]

I just contact Zeitronix, and they burst my bubble. You HAVE to use a 3.5 bar map sensor, and there are only three available on the open market from what I have seen: Zeitronix, AEM, ebay. I contacted the manufacturer of the map sensor Zeitronix sells directly to see if I can buy right from them and cut out the middle man, but my guess is they will only be able to sell in bulk.

 

[Fede_italiano]

I just contact Zeitronix, and they burst my bubble. You HAVE to use a 3.5 bar map sensor, and there are only three available on the open market from what I have seen: Zeitronix, AEM, ebay. I contacted the manufacturer of the map sensor Zeitronix sells directly to see if I can buy right from them and cut out the middle man, but my guess is they will only be able to sell in bulk.

Does the diagram looks like this??

 

[Moeed]

yes. 100% right. That will work fine.


In my case, I got rid of my boost gauge. I used the existing vac line in the cabin to mate up to the map sensor.

 

[livelyjay]

Actually, wouldn't it be easier to install the map sensor right next to the Zeitronix unit in the cabin? The unit has the three connections for the sensor already (5V power, ground, and input). So you either run a long vac line my way or you run long power/ground/signal wires your way. Guess it's easier to run wire than vac line.