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Bijou-MP5 said:
neither.......I don't have tons of expensive software......I can't afford that professional level s*** like Photoshop and Premiere either......besides, it's not even designed for home use.....they have reasonably priced alternatives for that. I use Linux so the software I use is free.....and in most cases is equal to or better than what a person would pay for on Windows. Lack of funds is no excuse to steal.
loj68-
wow... i would like to know how you are getting paid by the music industry. perhaps you are the most moral and pious person that I have ever heard of and your arguments are logically sound. but the question is how can someone be that convinced of the piety and infallability of an industry that has repeatedly lied to the american public...
does anyone else remember the music industry's promise to consumers (in the early 90's) that if they supported the CD (then compact disc) format that prices would come down? the industry has actually been sued by states' attorney generals for that one...
I download and continue to do so today but I do so with the knowledge that it "could" be a crime (no self-incrimination here). I do support the music industry even to this day; when someone puts something out that is worth $12 to me then I will and do buy it (as evidenced by my collection of 400 CDs).
Don't condemn those around you while not acknowledging the crimes of those you present as victims... It may not be the solution to commit crimes against criminals but where is the alternative?
P.S. If you are looking to download music to listen to (before purchasing it, of course) then make sure to remove all items from your shared folder.
P.S.2. Its not digital property its intellectual property and that comes from a basic understanding of legal prinicples.
wow... i would like to know how you are getting paid by the music industry. perhaps you are the most moral and pious person that I have ever heard of and your arguments are logically sound. but the question is how can someone be that convinced of the piety and infallability of an industry that has repeatedly lied to the american public...
does anyone else remember the music industry's promise to consumers (in the early 90's) that if they supported the CD (then compact disc) format that prices would come down? the industry has actually been sued by states' attorney generals for that one...
I download and continue to do so today but I do so with the knowledge that it "could" be a crime (no self-incrimination here). I do support the music industry even to this day; when someone puts something out that is worth $12 to me then I will and do buy it (as evidenced by my collection of 400 CDs).
Don't condemn those around you while not acknowledging the crimes of those you present as victims... It may not be the solution to commit crimes against criminals but where is the alternative?
P.S. If you are looking to download music to listen to (before purchasing it, of course) then make sure to remove all items from your shared folder.
P.S.2. Its not digital property its intellectual property and that comes from a basic understanding of legal prinicples.
loj68 said:
I am not stating that you are wrong, but if the RIAA continues to do this type of stuff then others will jump on the bandwagon and before you know it the internet will not be able to post anything. Mazda will sue this board for tangible info exchanged. All of the pictures that people post will have to be explicitly copyrighted and etc. On this note then photocoping machines and scanner will need to be destroyed.
I am not stating that this will happen, but it is a chain reaction. There are lots of ways of obtaining property that you have not paid for, that doesn't make it wrong. There is a difference between stealing and sharing and that is why a lot of people can't understand your meaning. Most people do not feel that file-sharing/swapping is illegal because it is shared. If you go to a store and steal something, taking an item from a known business without rightfully paying then yes that is stealing, or taking an item from an acquantance's house without their prior knowledge for personal gain, that is stealing! Sharing music with people you don't know is not stealing. Not in the sense that most people think of it.
You have to understand that calling a bunch of people theives for sharing something (as they believe it is sharing) can seem a bit hardcore. Like I said before, it was believed to be sharing. It has now been considered stealing and therefore is not wrong, the RIAA has gone on a witchhunt and has retrofitted this meaning for all time, not just since the ruling. Therefore a lot of people feel wronged by a business that seems to want more money constantly.
It is like taxes.
We know we have to pay them, but damned if we don't b**** about them!
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Dexter said:
Oh....I don't know about used CD's......if you own the CD then you own the music......shouldn't matter if you bought it or if it was a gift or if you picked it up second hand.
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PhreakMP5 said:
My opinions on illegal ownership and distribution and copyrighted intellectual property are unrelated to my thoughts of the industry itself. Those are 2 completely separate topics. As I've said countless times before I was a musician and have friends still in the biz at all levels.....I hate the record companies and the RIAA. I'd love to see artists get more power and not be left out to dry by these one-sided contracts. Also, I think the RIAA are complete morons for trying to shut down the digital distribution of music instead of adapting and investing in it's future, thus legitimizing the activity that millions currently do illegally. However, none of these feelings are a justification to wantonly take and distribute the property of these companies without paying.
There are always legal means.....online petitions, boycotts, countersuits, you name it.
Glad I live in Canada....
