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uclap5 said:
she probably doesnt even know what the **** piracy is, or that downloading songs is technically "wrong". would you , if you were 12? i mean, all your brothers, sisters, friends, talk about it and do it and no one mentions the legal implications , correct? so how would she really know what shes is doing is wrong?
12 year olds have no idea what they are doing, if your honestly telling me a 12 year old has a realistic grasp on the music industry and how P2P apps are "stealing" music, you my friend are trifflin..to most people its just as simple as, "its that thing on my screen that i type songs into and i listen to them" she is 12, and she is also a completely computer ignorant girl..uh, duh..she is 12... she had a bunch of avril lavinge and random songs on here computer, roughly 900 songs. That sounds like a lot of songs, but having a familiy of more or less music savvy people dl'ing songs all the time, it was a very mixed bag of stuff. I have well over 2000 on my computer..the RIAA was just making random examples of high content shared folders. look bottom line is this, do what you want, I have a band, we have albums on a label, get over it. Its not personally effecting you so everyone should just chill out. When the RIAA shuts down P2Ps, which can realistcally never happen, then you can complain..my advice...just burn your stuff to cds or remote a harddrive..sunrise..sunset.
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loj68
uclap5 said:
I'm with you man.....although the girl herself probably can't be held liably in a legal sense, her parents sure can. I'm so sick of the BS arguments that stealing music is OK cuz CD's are overpriced.....that's the most lame and ignorant excuse there is......how someone could equate that to an license to steal is beyond me. It's unfortunate that stealing music and software is so easy......and even more unfortunate that people take such a casual attitude towards criminal activity that takes money out of peoples pockets......anyone who doesn't think that $$$ loss doesn't make an impact all the way down to the mailroom is sadly mistaken.
its not just people stealing music, our entire society is based on stealing, now isnt it? big mega corporations and accountants lying about profits and s*** like that steals from a large amount of people,but hey its not stealing music so its okay! its not stealing tangible goods, so its okay!
the music industry doesnt steal anything from anyone, no way!
every system is perfect and needs no poking or prodding to change!
yeah!
the music industry doesnt steal anything from anyone, no way!
every system is perfect and needs no poking or prodding to change!
yeah!
uh..technically recording the radio ISNT legal.. it is legal for your own personal use, but any rebroadcast of it is "illegal" now, if anyone actually cares about the radio anymore, they should be promptly shot.
hey ive got a question.
what the difference between downloading a CD and buying one at the local used CD shop? Either way, the RIAA is not seeing money from the transaction...the CD has already been purchased by someone else...the RIAA got thier money from that CD, but now if Joe X buys the CD from the CD shop, the shop gets all the profits. right?
what the difference between downloading a CD and buying one at the local used CD shop? Either way, the RIAA is not seeing money from the transaction...the CD has already been purchased by someone else...the RIAA got thier money from that CD, but now if Joe X buys the CD from the CD shop, the shop gets all the profits. right?
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loj68
Dexter said:
no.....un-purchased CD's are returned to the record companies.
I still don't get it... downloading mp3 should be legal.
mp3 have less quality than actual CD.
if ppl really likes the music then they tend to buy actual CD from store.
but...these days its not safe to download mp3's.
just becareful when you downloading something, make sure you set it to no sharing and use good firewall.
mp3 have less quality than actual CD.
if ppl really likes the music then they tend to buy actual CD from store.
but...these days its not safe to download mp3's.
just becareful when you downloading something, make sure you set it to no sharing and use good firewall.
Okay I've read the rest of the post now....
First off:
Yes 12 year olds do know what is going on. Don't you remember being 12. I knew a lot at 12. Not as much now, but I definately was aware!
With that being said, I still don't agree with them going after people.
Yes artist should get paid, but usually an artist only sees about 10 cents from a CD, the other amount goes to the company. Therefore it is really the company that gets hurt a lot more than the artists!
Now as far as file swapping and legality. I don't think it is right for them to sue people who did not have the intent to make money off of the file swap. IE I can buy a CD and burn it for 10 of my friends and that is cool as long as I don't charge money for it. When I start to charge, then it should be illegal!
Yes, these people aren't exactly friends, but I don't think it is right for the RIAA to go after people, whether it be a 12 year old girl or a 25 year old man or a 45 year old woman!
The fact of it is that the recording industry should have caught up with the times a long time ago and realized that they should put warnings out before this happened, not after the fact and then retrofit it to their needs!
They are playing catch-up and really make a bad name for themselves in the process!!!
First off:
Yes 12 year olds do know what is going on. Don't you remember being 12. I knew a lot at 12. Not as much now, but I definately was aware!
With that being said, I still don't agree with them going after people.
Yes artist should get paid, but usually an artist only sees about 10 cents from a CD, the other amount goes to the company. Therefore it is really the company that gets hurt a lot more than the artists!
Now as far as file swapping and legality. I don't think it is right for them to sue people who did not have the intent to make money off of the file swap. IE I can buy a CD and burn it for 10 of my friends and that is cool as long as I don't charge money for it. When I start to charge, then it should be illegal!
Yes, these people aren't exactly friends, but I don't think it is right for the RIAA to go after people, whether it be a 12 year old girl or a 25 year old man or a 45 year old woman!
The fact of it is that the recording industry should have caught up with the times a long time ago and realized that they should put warnings out before this happened, not after the fact and then retrofit it to their needs!
They are playing catch-up and really make a bad name for themselves in the process!!!
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loj68
Bijou-MP5 said:
and exchanging distributing free photocopied versions of Stephen King novels to millions of people should be legal too. Hey, it's reduced quality. Downloading MP3's (copyrighted ones) is obtaining property that you have not paid for......period......also known as theft. The quality or whatever is completely irrelevant to the argument that you have illegally obtained the digital property of someone else. Why do people make the incorrect assumption that there is some difference between stealing digital property and tangible property? There simply isn't one....and to think otherwise is to have an absence of knowledge of basic economic principles.
loj68 said:
wow... you must be the guy that never downloads mp3 or anything else to be stay legal and get praised from record industries and etcs. or you are ******* rich to buy all those stuff.
cause I can't afford those.
damn... I need money to be just like you.:mad:
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It's not our fault the end users and programmers are a lot smarter than the record industry, riaa, etc.
Doesn't seem to me that anyone else cares besides the RIAA and a few select bands. I would say 80~90% of the bands don't care because they are not caught up in making the most possible $$, but the actual joy of making and performing music.
They can jack up the concert prices, but I will still go to see my fav. bands. It's music it's not like it's source code confidential to the government.
Playing music is what it should be about not selling it.
Doesn't seem to me that anyone else cares besides the RIAA and a few select bands. I would say 80~90% of the bands don't care because they are not caught up in making the most possible $$, but the actual joy of making and performing music.
They can jack up the concert prices, but I will still go to see my fav. bands. It's music it's not like it's source code confidential to the government.
Playing music is what it should be about not selling it.
